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hello<00:00:19.560><c> everyone</c>

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hello everyone
 

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hello everyone
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I am Darren Langley and I work on
 

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I am Darren Langley and I work on
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rocketpool which is a decentralized
 

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rocketpool which is a decentralized
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liquid staking protocol
 

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liquid staking protocol
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so at Rocket pool we've spent the last
 

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so at Rocket pool we've spent the last
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six years building our liquid staking
 

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six years building our liquid staking
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protocol so today I'm going to take you
 

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protocol so today I'm going to take you
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through some lessons that we've learned
 

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through some lessons that we've learned
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along the way
 

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along the way
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so in this talk we're going to break
 

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so in this talk we're going to break
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down what is a liquid staking protocol
 

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down what is a liquid staking protocol
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what are some of the design choices uh
 

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what are some of the design choices uh
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what are the challenges of building a
 

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what are the challenges of building a
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truly decentralized protocol and then
 

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truly decentralized protocol and then
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so
 

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so
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it's staking
 

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it's staking
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so liquid staking is built on ethereum's
 

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so liquid staking is built on ethereum's
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proof of stake system
 

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proof of stake system
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um a little tangent I couldn't be more
 

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um a little tangent I couldn't be more
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excited that ethereum is now a proof of
 

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excited that ethereum is now a proof of
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um chain and congratulations to all the
 

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um chain and congratulations to all the
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researchers uh core developers and um
 

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researchers uh core developers and um
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sort of and coordinators that have made
 

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sort of and coordinators that have made
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it happen it's fantastic
 

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it happen it's fantastic
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so when you stake you are participating
 

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so when you stake you are participating
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in ethereum's proof of stake consensus
 

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in ethereum's proof of stake consensus
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why would you want to do that so the
 

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why would you want to do that so the
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most important thing is that you're
 

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most important thing is that you're
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contributing to the security of ethereum
 

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uh we also earn staking rewards for
 

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uh we also earn staking rewards for
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being a good node operator
 

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being a good node operator
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so her ethereum has a couple of uh kind
 

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so her ethereum has a couple of uh kind
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of barriers oh sorry ethereum mistaking
 

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has a couple of barriers first of all
 

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has a couple of barriers first of all
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you need technical experience to run
 

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you need technical experience to run
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like a validating node
 

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like a validating node
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you also need
 

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a fixed 32 eth per validator
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um the state eth is actually kind of
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naturally illiquid
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it exists on the beacon chain earning
 

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it exists on the beacon chain earning
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rewards but you can't really use it for
 

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rewards but you can't really use it for
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anything else which is by Design but
 

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anything else which is by Design but
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most of the 32 East that you stake is
 

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most of the 32 East that you stake is
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not actually at risk
 

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not actually at risk
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except under the kind of most dire of
 

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except under the kind of most dire of
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consequences or situations
 

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consequences or situations
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uh currently it's also a one-way thing
 

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uh currently it's also a one-way thing
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so withdrawals are coming soon um but at
 

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so withdrawals are coming soon um but at
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the moment you you're staking and you're
 

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the moment you you're staking and you're
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that's it
 

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that's it
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uh the rewards from staking East come in
 

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uh the rewards from staking East come in
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two juicy flavors
 

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two juicy flavors
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the first one is consensus rewards
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um which comes from new eth inflation
 

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um which comes from new eth inflation
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and then you get that by kind of
 

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and then you get that by kind of
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Performing your node operator duties so
 

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Performing your node operator duties so
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that's a testing being part of a sync
 

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that's a testing being part of a sync
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committee and proposing blocks
 

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committee and proposing blocks
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as I said before
 

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as I said before
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um withdrawals aren't available at the
 

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um withdrawals aren't available at the
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moment but they will be
 

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moment but they will be
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um potentially after the Shanghai hard
 

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um potentially after the Shanghai hard
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uh execution will the next type of uh
 

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uh execution will the next type of uh
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reward is the execution rewards they
 

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reward is the execution rewards they
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come from users so they uh come from
 

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come from users so they uh come from
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Priority fees which are the non-burnt
 

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part of a transaction fee
 

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part of a transaction fee
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and then potentially Mev if you're
 

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and then potentially Mev if you're
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extracting Mev
 

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extracting Mev
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that's actually available today and
 

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that's actually available today and
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pretty much in real time
 

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pretty much in real time
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so how a staking protocol captures and
 

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so how a staking protocol captures and
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then distributes those fees or those
 

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then distributes those fees or those
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rewards is key to its design
 

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rewards is key to its design
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a liquid Staker deposits any amount of
 

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a liquid Staker deposits any amount of
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eth into the protocol
 

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eth into the protocol
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and in return they receive a liquid
 

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and in return they receive a liquid
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and the ease that they deposited gets
 

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and the ease that they deposited gets
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matched with the node operator the node
 

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matched with the node operator the node
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operator interacts with the protocol and
 

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operator interacts with the protocol and
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deposits the eth into into the beacon
 

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deposits the eth into into the beacon
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node operators then earn rewards by
 

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node operators then earn rewards by
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being good node operators
 

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being good node operators
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and the liquid staking token accrues the
 

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and the liquid staking token accrues the
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so to unstake a liquid sticker burns the
 

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liquid staking token for and gets back
 

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liquid staking token for and gets back
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their ease or actually more East than
 

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their ease or actually more East than
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they put in generally
 

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they put in generally
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um and you you can either do it kind of
 

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um and you you can either do it kind of
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in the primary mechanism or you can do
 

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in the primary mechanism or you can do
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it on a secondary Market
 

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it on a secondary Market
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so this is the very basic outline of how
 

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so this is the very basic outline of how
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liquid staking works but as we'll see
 

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liquid staking works but as we'll see
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every step has some design choices and
 

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every step has some design choices and
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so why liquid staking
 

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so why liquid staking
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so it's kind of important to know why
 

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so it's kind of important to know why
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you're doing this what benefit does it
 

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you're doing this what benefit does it
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so it turns out that there are
 

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so it turns out that there are
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significant benefits to ethereum as a
 

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significant benefits to ethereum as a
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so liquid staking encourages greater
 

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so liquid staking encourages greater
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participation and that in turn provides
 

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participation and that in turn provides
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greater security and decentralization
 

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greater security and decentralization
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there's a little star there because it
 

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there's a little star there because it
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only contributes to decentralization if
 

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only contributes to decentralization if
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are decentralized and not just one
 

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are decentralized and not just one
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uh it liquid staking facilitates
 

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uh it liquid staking facilitates
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unstaking through like a primary
 

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unstaking through like a primary
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mechanism through the protocol itself
 

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mechanism through the protocol itself
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um or on a secondary market so it
 

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um or on a secondary market so it
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reduces validator churn
 

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reduces validator churn
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it also Fosters Innovation and capital
 

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it also Fosters Innovation and capital
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efficiency and through the use of these
 

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efficiency and through the use of these
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okay so on this section I'm going to
 

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okay so on this section I'm going to
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focus on liquid token design but there
 

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focus on liquid token design but there
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are some equally big design spaces on
 

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are some equally big design spaces on
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the Node operator side and and some
 

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the Node operator side and and some
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definitely some interesting challenges
 

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definitely some interesting challenges
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so first thing you realize when you're
 

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so first thing you realize when you're
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designing a liquid staking token is that
 

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designing a liquid staking token is that
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node operators earn rewards at different
 

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node operators earn rewards at different
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they may also be penalized and in worst
 

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they may also be penalized and in worst
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case scenarios they can be slashed
 

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case scenarios they can be slashed
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so there's a couple of ways of handling
 

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so there's a couple of ways of handling
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the first way is to have a fungible
 

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the first way is to have a fungible
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token that shares rewards and losses
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across the entire protocol
 

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or you can have a non-fungible token
 

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or you can have a non-fungible token
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where rewards and losses are specific to
 

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where rewards and losses are specific to
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each node operator or each validator
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then you can kind of have that this
 

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then you can kind of have that this
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um although you've got to be careful you
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don't end up in a worst of Both Worlds
 

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don't end up in a worst of Both Worlds
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each of these approaches have some
 

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different trade-offs and you have to
 

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different trade-offs and you have to
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kind of weigh up um which ones
 

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kind of weigh up um which ones
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so the next one is safety
 

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so the next one is safety
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so there is eth backing you know backing
 

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so there is eth backing you know backing
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the liquid staking token
 

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the liquid staking token
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So What mechanisms are in place to
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but it is possible to lose your your
 

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but it is possible to lose your your
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stake either partially or in like the
 

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protocol need to account for things like
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aligning incentives and general risk
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so how are rewards delivered to token
 

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so how are rewards delivered to token
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how does the token reflect the yield
 

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how does the token reflect the yield
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that the protocol actually is producing
 

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that the protocol actually is producing
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this there's rebasing and non-rebacing
 

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this there's rebasing and non-rebacing
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so a rebasing token its exchange rate is
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like a notional one-to-one with eth
 

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like a notional one-to-one with eth
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but the quantity increases
 

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but the quantity increases
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so the token increases in quantity over
 

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so the token increases in quantity over
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time that's how the yield uh represents
 

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time that's how the yield uh represents
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itself or gets delivered
 

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itself or gets delivered
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with a non-rebacing token the exchange
 

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with a non-rebacing token the exchange
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rate increases but the quantity is the
 

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rate increases but the quantity is the
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same quantity stays constant
 

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same quantity stays constant
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so the the actual token increases in
 

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so the the actual token increases in
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value over time
 

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value over time
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um and there's some there's definitely
 

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um and there's some there's definitely
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some kind of pros and cons of each of
 

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some kind of pros and cons of each of
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these mainly that so with the rebasing
 

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these mainly that so with the rebasing
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token it's very simple to understand
 

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token it's very simple to understand
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you're literally getting more of the
 

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you're literally getting more of the
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uh but it's extremely hard to integrate
 

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uh but it's extremely hard to integrate
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so when the if the quantity is changing
 

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so when the if the quantity is changing
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all the time that's not really
 

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all the time that's not really
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with a non-rebacing token uh it's it's
 

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with a non-rebacing token uh it's it's
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harder to understand and if you go down
 

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harder to understand and if you go down
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that route you'll spend most of your
 

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that route you'll spend most of your
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life uh explaining to people what a
 

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life uh explaining to people what a
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non-rebasing token is
 

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non-rebasing token is
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um but it is much easier
 

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um but it is much easier
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to integrate uh it's it's just a
 

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to integrate uh it's it's just a
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standard erc20 and it's supported by
 

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standard erc20 and it's supported by
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most D5 protocols
 

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most D5 protocols
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it actually turns out that a
 

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it actually turns out that a
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non-rebasing token is more tax efficient
 

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non-rebasing token is more tax efficient
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as well so it depends on your
 

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as well so it depends on your
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jurisdiction
 

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um but within a rebasing token you have
 

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um but within a rebasing token you have
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like a taxable event every single day
 

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like a taxable event every single day
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whereas with a non-rebacing token you
 

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whereas with a non-rebacing token you
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have a taxable event new stake and when
 

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have a taxable event new stake and when
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so liquidity
 

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so liquidity
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by tokenizing um steak teeth it can be
 

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by tokenizing um steak teeth it can be
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traded on secondary markets such as
 

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traded on secondary markets such as
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exchanges this provides liquidity for
 

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exchanges this provides liquidity for
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people to unstake their eth
 

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people to unstake their eth
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did the price you pay on secondary
 

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did the price you pay on secondary
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markets is dictated by the market so it
 

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markets is dictated by the market so it
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may present a liquidity discount or
 

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may present a liquidity discount or
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potentially a liquidity like a premium
 

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potentially a liquidity like a premium
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with large orders there can also be
 

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with large orders there can also be
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slippage and so staking protocols can
 

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slippage and so staking protocols can
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offer like a if they can offer a primary
 

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offer like a if they can offer a primary
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mechanism for unstaking eth so that you
 

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mechanism for unstaking eth so that you
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can allow um liquid staking token
 

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can allow um liquid staking token
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holders to actually swap back without
 

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holders to actually swap back without
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the discount and without the slippage
 

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the discount and without the slippage
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both of these mechanisms of undertaking
 

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both of these mechanisms of undertaking
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kind of reduce the need for validator
 

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kind of reduce the need for validator
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okay so now you've got your token out in
 

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okay so now you've got your token out in
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the wild
 

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the wild
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I mean everyone's going crazy about it
 

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I mean everyone's going crazy about it
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um you need to start building utility
 

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um you need to start building utility
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these come in the form of Integrations
 

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these come in the form of Integrations
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with other D5 protocols
 

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with other D5 protocols
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so there's kind of like a Maslow's
 

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so there's kind of like a Maslow's
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hierarchy of defy Integrations
 

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hierarchy of defy Integrations
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um it goes something like this you
 

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um it goes something like this you
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integrate into wallets and explorers
 

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integrate into wallets and explorers
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first then you build up some liquidity
 

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first then you build up some liquidity
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this is the bit that takes time A lot of
 

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this is the bit that takes time A lot of
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time to build up liquidity you need to
 

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time to build up liquidity you need to
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get a breadth of liquidity and depth of
 

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get a breadth of liquidity and depth of
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liquidity and that's important to kind
 

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liquidity and that's important to kind
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of get to the next phases
 

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of get to the next phases
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you also need to get good liquidity on
 

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you also need to get good liquidity on
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layer twos because you want to build up
 

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layer twos because you want to build up
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um support in those in those ecosystems
 

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um support in those in those ecosystems
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and also provide good ux for stakers
 

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and also provide good ux for stakers
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so then the next layer is Oracles so
 

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so then the next layer is Oracles so
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once you once you've got some liquidity
 

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once you once you've got some liquidity
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you get oracles the next one is D5
 

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you get oracles the next one is D5
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protocols particularly lending platforms
 

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protocols particularly lending platforms
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but also kind of options and index
 

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but also kind of options and index
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platforms and fixed income products and
 

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platforms and fixed income products and
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all loads of things
 

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all loads of things
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the last one is volts so volts are kind
 

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the last one is volts so volts are kind
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of like yield optimization and platforms
 

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of like yield optimization and platforms
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they sit over top of loads of different
 

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they sit over top of loads of different
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D5 protocols and optimize that yield
 

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D5 protocols and optimize that yield
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foreign
 

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foreign
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staking protocol is a set of smart
 

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staking protocol is a set of smart
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contracts that mediates between
 

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contracts that mediates between
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depositors and node operators kind of
 

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depositors and node operators kind of
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escrows funds into the ethereum's proof
 

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escrows funds into the ethereum's proof
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of stake system and then back again
 

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of stake system and then back again
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on withdrawal the protocol transparently
 

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on withdrawal the protocol transparently
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distributes those funds and ensures that
 

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distributes those funds and ensures that
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each party receives what they expect
 

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each party receives what they expect
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in short withdrawals aware of most of
 

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in short withdrawals aware of most of
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okay so it's at this point in the
 

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okay so it's at this point in the
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presentation I need to give a bit of a
 

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presentation I need to give a bit of a
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disclaimer the information on this slide
 

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disclaimer the information on this slide
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is not final the capella specification
 

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is not final the capella specification
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is still being kind of drafted but at
 

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is still being kind of drafted but at
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this point this is what it looks like
 

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this point this is what it looks like
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so after the Shanghai hard Fork
 

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so after the Shanghai hard Fork
hopefully

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hopefully
 

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hopefully
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um consensus rewards uh will be fully
 

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um consensus rewards uh will be fully
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withdrawable or partially withdrawable
 

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withdrawable or partially withdrawable
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so fully withdrawn is a node operator
 

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so fully withdrawn is a node operator
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initiated thing so a node operator
 

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initiated thing so a node operator
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submits an exit message they get
 

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submits an exit message they get
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processed by an exit the beacon chain
 

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processed by an exit the beacon chain
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execute they come into this withdrawable
 

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execute they come into this withdrawable
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state and then their funds are returned
 

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state and then their funds are returned
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to a withdrawal credential
 

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to a withdrawal credential
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at that point they are no longer
 

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at that point they are no longer
validating<00:12:07.920><c> they've</c><00:12:08.399><c> done</c><00:12:08.519><c> there's</c><00:12:08.760><c> a</c>

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validating they've done there's a
 

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validating they've done there's a
validator<00:12:09.720><c> okay</c><00:12:10.140><c> that's</c><00:12:10.440><c> full</c><00:12:10.680><c> exit</c>

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validator okay that's full exit
 

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validator okay that's full exit
with<00:12:12.420><c> partial</c><00:12:12.779><c> withdrawn</c><00:12:13.320><c> you're</c><00:12:13.800><c> still</c>

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with partial withdrawn you're still
 

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with partial withdrawn you're still
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validating and in fact this is like an
 

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validating and in fact this is like an
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automatic and ongoing process
 

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automatic and ongoing process
so

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so
 

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so
um this<00:12:20.459><c> is</c><00:12:20.519><c> this</c><00:12:20.820><c> essentially</c><00:12:21.180><c> takes</c><00:12:21.480><c> skims</c>

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um this is this essentially takes skims
 

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um this is this essentially takes skims
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the rewards um off the top so you have
 

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the rewards um off the top so you have
32<00:12:25.140><c> Heath</c><00:12:25.500><c> is</c><00:12:25.740><c> your</c><00:12:26.040><c> kind</c><00:12:26.700><c> of</c><00:12:26.820><c> initial</c><00:12:27.360><c> deposit</c>

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32 Heath is your kind of initial deposit
 

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32 Heath is your kind of initial deposit
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and then anything else you make
 

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and then anything else you make
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um on top of that will be kind of
 

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um on top of that will be kind of
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continually skimmed and sent to your
 

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continually skimmed and sent to your
withdrawal<00:12:33.779><c> credential</c><00:12:34.140><c> automatically</c><00:12:35.100><c> by</c>

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withdrawal credential automatically by
 

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withdrawal credential automatically by
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the um the beacon chain and the
 

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the um the beacon chain and the
consensus<00:12:37.980><c> clouds</c>

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so<00:12:42.360><c> withdrawal</c><00:12:42.839><c> credentials</c><00:12:43.380><c> are</c><00:12:43.500><c> a</c><00:12:43.620><c> key</c>

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so withdrawal credentials are a key
 

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so withdrawal credentials are a key
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element of the ethereum spec
 

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element of the ethereum spec
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um and they come in like two types
 

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um and they come in like two types
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there's a Xerox zero which is this BLS
 

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there's a Xerox zero which is this BLS
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signature credential and 0x01 which is
 

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signature credential and 0x01 which is
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an ethereum address that receives the
 

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an ethereum address that receives the
withdrawn<00:12:56.399><c> funds</c>

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withdrawn funds
 

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withdrawn funds
so<00:12:58.260><c> most</c><00:12:58.620><c> credentials</c><00:12:59.279><c> in</c><00:12:59.399><c> use</c><00:12:59.579><c> today</c><00:12:59.760><c> are</c><00:13:00.420><c> 0x0</c>

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so most credentials in use today are 0x0
 

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so most credentials in use today are 0x0
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and that's because they were introduced
 

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and that's because they were introduced
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first and then much later 0x01 came came
 

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first and then much later 0x01 came came
ahead

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ahead
 

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ahead
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so in the current plan Xerox zero
 

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so in the current plan Xerox zero
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credentials we need to be converted into
 

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credentials we need to be converted into
a<00:13:12.959><c> 0x01</c>

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a 0x01
 

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a 0x01
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um to allow you to withdraw
 

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um to allow you to withdraw
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and there'll be like this special kind
 

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and there'll be like this special kind
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of migration process that'll that'll
 

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of migration process that'll that'll
facilitate<00:13:21.180><c> that</c>

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facilitate that
 

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facilitate that
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so 0x01 is important because it
 

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so 0x01 is important because it
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facilitates the development of these
 

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facilitates the development of these
non-custodial<00:13:29.040><c> staking</c><00:13:29.519><c> protocols</c>

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non-custodial staking protocols
 

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non-custodial staking protocols
um essentially<00:13:31.500><c> because</c><00:13:31.740><c> the</c><00:13:32.600><c> 0x01</c><00:13:33.620><c> address</c>

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um essentially because the 0x01 address
 

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um essentially because the 0x01 address
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can be a smart contract and so that's
 

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can be a smart contract and so that's
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smart contract can you know take custody
 

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smart contract can you know take custody
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of funds they can deposit them into the
 

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of funds they can deposit them into the
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um the beacon chain into the into the
 

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um the beacon chain into the into the
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deposit contract and then when it
 

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deposit contract and then when it
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withdraws it can then distribute the
 

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withdraws it can then distribute the
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so building a decentralized staking
 

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so building a decentralized staking
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protocol is easy
 

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protocol is easy
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not so much
 

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not so much
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there are significant challenges to
 

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there are significant challenges to
developing<00:14:03.360><c> a</c><00:14:03.600><c> truly</c><00:14:03.839><c> decentralized</c><00:14:04.440><c> staking</c>

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developing a truly decentralized staking
 

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developing a truly decentralized staking
protocol

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protocol
 

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protocol
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so as for permissionless being an open
 

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so as for permissionless being an open
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and public piece of infrastructure is
 

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and public piece of infrastructure is
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key to a protocol success and it's and
 

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key to a protocol success and it's and
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it's also it's important for its
 

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it's also it's important for its
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alignment with ethereum being
 

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alignment with ethereum being
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permissionless is a is a noble Pursuit
 

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permissionless is a is a noble Pursuit
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and it's critical for ethereum to for
 

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and it's critical for ethereum to for
retaining<00:14:22.740><c> its</c><00:14:23.040><c> credible</c><00:14:23.279><c> neutrality</c>

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retaining its credible neutrality
 

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retaining its credible neutrality
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so being permissionless subsequently
 

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so being permissionless subsequently
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leads to trustless designs which I
 

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leads to trustless designs which I
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believe are much more resilient in the
 

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believe are much more resilient in the
long<00:14:31.800><c> term</c>

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long term
 

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long term
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like ethereum itself decentralized
 

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like ethereum itself decentralized
staking<00:14:35.639><c> protocols</c><00:14:36.120><c> have</c><00:14:36.300><c> to</c><00:14:36.360><c> rely</c><00:14:36.660><c> on</c><00:14:36.779><c> a</c>

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staking protocols have to rely on a
 

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staking protocols have to rely on a
combination<00:14:37.800><c> of</c><00:14:38.160><c> cryptography</c><00:14:38.880><c> and</c><00:14:39.420><c> crypto</c>

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combination of cryptography and crypto
 

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combination of cryptography and crypto
economics<00:14:40.320><c> to</c><00:14:40.980><c> balance</c><00:14:41.339><c> incentives</c><00:14:41.820><c> and</c>

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economics to balance incentives and
 

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economics to balance incentives and
penalties<00:14:42.480><c> ensuring</c><00:14:43.380><c> that</c><00:14:43.620><c> the</c><00:14:43.800><c> participants</c>

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penalties ensuring that the participants
 

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penalties ensuring that the participants
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have aligned interests
 

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have aligned interests
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but it is challenging but personally
 

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but it is challenging but personally
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this is what it makes it this is what
 

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this is what it makes it this is what
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so<00:14:54.779><c> scaling</c>

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so scaling
 

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so scaling
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being a competitive market participant
 

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being a competitive market participant
is<00:14:58.920><c> important</c><00:14:59.339><c> to</c><00:14:59.880><c> ensure</c><00:15:00.180><c> that</c><00:15:00.420><c> ethereum</c>

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is important to ensure that ethereum
 

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is important to ensure that ethereum
remains<00:15:01.500><c> decentralized</c>

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remains decentralized
 

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remains decentralized
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scaling a decentralized staking protocol
 

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scaling a decentralized staking protocol
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is much harder than scaling a
 

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is much harder than scaling a
centralized<00:15:08.699><c> provider</c>

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centralized provider
 

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centralized provider
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the two aren't even really comparable
 

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the two aren't even really comparable
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a decentralized staking protocol has to
 

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a decentralized staking protocol has to
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rely on Ingenuity to scale but never
 

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rely on Ingenuity to scale but never
lose<00:15:18.180><c> sight</c><00:15:18.420><c> of</c><00:15:18.660><c> its</c><00:15:18.899><c> kind</c><00:15:19.019><c> of</c><00:15:19.139><c> core</c><00:15:19.320><c> value</c>

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lose sight of its kind of core value
 

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lose sight of its kind of core value
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a decentralized staking protocol is
 

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a decentralized staking protocol is
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actually a community
 

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actually a community
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a community of node operators who are
 

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a community of node operators who are
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passionate about securing ethereum
 

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passionate about securing ethereum
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scaling is certainly a challenge but it
 

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scaling is certainly a challenge but it
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is one that can be overcome
 

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is one that can be overcome
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so Reliance on oracles
 

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so Reliance on oracles
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so semi-trusted oracles are essential
 

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so semi-trusted oracles are essential
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for decentralized staking protocols
 

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for decentralized staking protocols
today

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today
 

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today
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the consensus and execution layer are
 

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the consensus and execution layer are
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separate Concepts and they've only just
 

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separate Concepts and they've only just
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been merged together
 

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been merged together
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so oracles are required to Aggregate and
 

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so oracles are required to Aggregate and
Report<00:15:53.699><c> validator</c><00:15:54.660><c> performance</c><00:15:55.500><c> information</c>

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Report validator performance information
 

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Report validator performance information
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to the protocol smart contracts
 

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to the protocol smart contracts
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there's actually an EIP that's being
 

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there's actually an EIP that's being
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considered for Shanghai and it's eip4788
 

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considered for Shanghai and it's eip4788
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what it does is it adds access to the
 

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what it does is it adds access to the
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beacon chain state route to the
 

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beacon chain state route to the
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execution layer so that smart contracts
 

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execution layer so that smart contracts
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can verify proofs about the beacon chain
 

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can verify proofs about the beacon chain
state

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state
 

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state
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this is key to reducing the role of
 

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this is key to reducing the role of
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these semi-trusted Oracles in the
 

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these semi-trusted Oracles in the
decentralized<00:16:21.839><c> staking</c><00:16:22.079><c> protocols</c><00:16:22.620><c> but</c><00:16:23.160><c> it</c>

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decentralized staking protocols but it
 

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decentralized staking protocols but it
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is important generally to combine those
 

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is important generally to combine those
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two concepts and allow Innovation to
 

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two concepts and allow Innovation to
particularly<00:16:29.399><c> around</c><00:16:30.060><c> validator</c><00:16:31.019><c> status</c><00:16:31.320><c> and</c>

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particularly around validator status and
 

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particularly around validator status and
finality<00:16:32.279><c> on</c><00:16:32.940><c> the</c><00:16:33.060><c> execution</c><00:16:33.420><c> layer</c>

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so<00:16:37.320><c> what</c><00:16:37.500><c> are</c><00:16:37.680><c> the</c><00:16:37.800><c> opportunities</c>

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okay<00:16:42.779><c> so</c><00:16:43.639><c> this</c><00:16:44.639><c> might</c><00:16:44.759><c> be</c><00:16:44.820><c> a</c><00:16:44.940><c> bit</c>

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okay so this might be a bit
 

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okay so this might be a bit
counter-intuitive<00:16:45.600><c> but</c><00:16:45.959><c> ethereum</c><00:16:46.620><c> doesn't</c>

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counter-intuitive but ethereum doesn't
 

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counter-intuitive but ethereum doesn't
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need more stake it needs more individual
 

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need more stake it needs more individual
node<00:16:49.500><c> operators</c>

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node operators
 

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node operators
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so I believe this quote is from
 

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so I believe this quote is from
superfizz<00:16:52.980><c> so</c><00:16:53.459><c> uh</c><00:16:53.639><c> thanks</c><00:16:53.940><c> Fizz</c><00:16:54.240><c> if</c><00:16:54.480><c> you're</c>

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superfizz so uh thanks Fizz if you're
 

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superfizz so uh thanks Fizz if you're
watching

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watching
 

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watching
um

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um
 

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um
decentralized<00:16:57.779><c> staking</c><00:16:58.079><c> protocols</c><00:16:58.800><c> have</c><00:16:59.399><c> an</c>

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decentralized staking protocols have an
 

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decentralized staking protocols have an
opportunity<00:17:00.000><c> to</c><00:17:00.420><c> redress</c><00:17:00.779><c> the</c><00:17:01.139><c> balance</c>

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opportunity to redress the balance
 

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opportunity to redress the balance
so<00:17:02.519><c> by</c><00:17:02.699><c> lowering</c><00:17:03.240><c> the</c><00:17:03.420><c> collateral</c>

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so by lowering the collateral
 

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so by lowering the collateral
requirement<00:17:04.260><c> for</c><00:17:04.860><c> node</c><00:17:05.040><c> operators</c>

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requirement for node operators
 

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requirement for node operators
there<00:17:07.079><c> are</c><00:17:07.380><c> more</c><00:17:07.740><c> potential</c><00:17:08.160><c> node</c><00:17:08.400><c> operators</c>

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there are more potential node operators
 

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there are more potential node operators
available

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by streamlining setting up a node and
 

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by streamlining setting up a node and
running<00:17:14.160><c> a</c><00:17:14.400><c> node</c><00:17:14.640><c> it's</c><00:17:15.480><c> easier</c><00:17:15.839><c> to</c><00:17:16.079><c> onboard</c>

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running a node it's easier to onboard
 

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running a node it's easier to onboard
new<00:17:16.679><c> node</c><00:17:16.919><c> operators</c>

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new node operators
 

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new node operators
and<00:17:19.500><c> if</c><00:17:19.679><c> you</c><00:17:19.799><c> lower</c><00:17:20.040><c> the</c><00:17:20.280><c> barrier</c><00:17:20.640><c> to</c><00:17:20.699><c> entry</c>

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and if you lower the barrier to entry
 

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and if you lower the barrier to entry
for<00:17:21.600><c> spinning</c><00:17:22.020><c> up</c><00:17:22.199><c> a</c><00:17:22.319><c> staking</c><00:17:22.559><c> business</c>

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for spinning up a staking business
 

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for spinning up a staking business
built<00:17:24.240><c> on</c><00:17:24.419><c> top</c><00:17:24.600><c> of</c><00:17:24.839><c> a</c><00:17:25.199><c> decentralized</c><00:17:25.679><c> staking</c>

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built on top of a decentralized staking
 

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built on top of a decentralized staking
protocol

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protocol
 

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protocol
this<00:17:27.660><c> allows</c><00:17:28.020><c> a</c><00:17:28.199><c> whole</c><00:17:28.319><c> ecosystem</c><00:17:28.919><c> of</c><00:17:29.820><c> Niche</c>

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this allows a whole ecosystem of Niche
 

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this allows a whole ecosystem of Niche
staking<00:17:30.480><c> businesses</c><00:17:31.080><c> to</c><00:17:31.919><c> compete</c><00:17:32.460><c> with</c><00:17:32.880><c> large</c>

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staking businesses to compete with large
 

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staking businesses to compete with large
providers

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providers
 

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providers
more<00:17:35.280><c> node</c><00:17:35.580><c> operators</c>

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more node operators
 

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more node operators
the<00:17:37.380><c> more</c><00:17:37.500><c> node</c><00:17:37.740><c> operators</c><00:17:38.100><c> we</c><00:17:38.340><c> have</c><00:17:38.520><c> the</c><00:17:39.179><c> more</c>

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the more node operators we have the more
 

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the more node operators we have the more
decentralized<00:17:40.080><c> ethereum</c><00:17:40.559><c> is</c>

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being<00:17:44.820><c> a</c><00:17:45.000><c> node</c><00:17:45.120><c> operator</c>

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being a node operator
 

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being a node operator
is<00:17:46.919><c> not</c><00:17:47.340><c> as</c><00:17:47.520><c> hard</c><00:17:47.640><c> as</c><00:17:47.820><c> you</c><00:17:47.940><c> think</c>

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okay<00:17:51.559><c> so</c><00:17:52.559><c> execution</c><00:17:53.100><c> reward</c><00:17:53.460><c> smoothing</c>

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okay so execution reward smoothing
 

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okay so execution reward smoothing
so

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so
 

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so
execution<00:17:56.760><c> rewards</c><00:17:57.360><c> so</c><00:17:57.960><c> the</c><00:17:58.140><c> ones</c><00:17:58.380><c> that</c><00:17:58.559><c> come</c>

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execution rewards so the ones that come
 

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execution rewards so the ones that come
from<00:17:59.160><c> like</c><00:17:59.760><c> transaction</c><00:18:00.179><c> fees</c><00:18:00.600><c> and</c>

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from like transaction fees and
 

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from like transaction fees and
potentially<00:18:01.200><c> Mev</c><00:18:02.100><c> are</c><00:18:02.820><c> extremely</c><00:18:03.419><c> variable</c>

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potentially Mev are extremely variable
 

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potentially Mev are extremely variable
this<00:18:05.400><c> is</c><00:18:05.520><c> because</c><00:18:05.780><c> Brock</c><00:18:06.780><c> proposes</c><00:18:07.260><c> are</c>

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this is because Brock proposes are
 

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this is because Brock proposes are
chosen<00:18:08.100><c> at</c><00:18:08.220><c> random</c>

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chosen at random
 

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chosen at random
so<00:18:10.679><c> at</c><00:18:10.919><c> this</c><00:18:11.100><c> time</c><00:18:11.340><c> if</c><00:18:12.120><c> you</c><00:18:12.240><c> have</c><00:18:12.419><c> like</c><00:18:12.720><c> one</c>

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so at this time if you have like one
 

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so at this time if you have like one
validator<00:18:13.760><c> you'll</c><00:18:14.760><c> receive</c><00:18:15.120><c> approximately</c>

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validator you'll receive approximately
 

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validator you'll receive approximately
five<00:18:16.320><c> proposals</c><00:18:17.039><c> per</c><00:18:17.400><c> year</c>

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five proposals per year
 

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five proposals per year
um<00:18:18.840><c> on</c><00:18:19.020><c> average</c>

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um on average
 

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um on average
but<00:18:20.220><c> you</c><00:18:20.460><c> could</c><00:18:20.520><c> get</c><00:18:20.820><c> two</c><00:18:21.360><c> or</c><00:18:22.080><c> you</c><00:18:22.260><c> could</c><00:18:22.380><c> get</c>

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but you could get two or you could get
 

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but you could get two or you could get
10.

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10.
 

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10.
so<00:18:24.360><c> this</c><00:18:24.660><c> variability</c><00:18:25.140><c> hits</c><00:18:25.559><c> small</c><00:18:25.860><c> node</c>

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so this variability hits small node
 

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so this variability hits small node
operators<00:18:26.760><c> hard</c><00:18:27.600><c> but</c><00:18:28.080><c> harder</c><00:18:28.860><c> actually</c><00:18:29.039><c> hard</c>

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operators hard but harder actually hard
 

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operators hard but harder actually hard
the<00:18:29.580><c> hardest</c>

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the hardest
 

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the hardest
um

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um
 

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um
as<00:18:32.520><c> a</c><00:18:32.700><c> decentralized</c><00:18:33.120><c> staking</c><00:18:33.419><c> protocol</c>

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as a decentralized staking protocol
 

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as a decentralized staking protocol
There's<00:18:34.440><c> an</c><00:18:34.679><c> opportunity</c><00:18:35.160><c> to</c><00:18:36.059><c> provide</c><00:18:36.299><c> a</c>

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There's an opportunity to provide a
 

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There's an opportunity to provide a
reward<00:18:36.780><c> smoothing</c><00:18:37.140><c> pool</c><00:18:37.380><c> that</c><00:18:37.679><c> participants</c>

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reward smoothing pool that participants
 

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reward smoothing pool that participants
pull<00:18:38.640><c> their</c><00:18:38.940><c> proposals</c>

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pull their proposals
 

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pull their proposals
to<00:18:40.740><c> achieve</c><00:18:41.039><c> a</c><00:18:41.280><c> consistent</c><00:18:41.580><c> return</c>

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to achieve a consistent return
 

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to achieve a consistent return
rather<00:18:43.200><c> than</c><00:18:43.440><c> this</c><00:18:43.860><c> highly</c><00:18:44.280><c> variable</c><00:18:44.700><c> return</c>

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rather than this highly variable return
 

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rather than this highly variable return
so<00:18:47.160><c> a</c><00:18:47.340><c> smoothing</c><00:18:47.640><c> pool</c><00:18:47.820><c> actually</c><00:18:48.120><c> levels</c><00:18:48.660><c> a</c>

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so a smoothing pool actually levels a
 

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so a smoothing pool actually levels a
playing<00:18:48.960><c> field</c><00:18:49.260><c> the</c><00:18:49.919><c> small</c><00:18:50.160><c> node</c><00:18:50.460><c> operators</c>

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playing field the small node operators
 

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playing field the small node operators
they<00:18:52.860><c> can</c><00:18:52.980><c> kind</c><00:18:53.100><c> of</c><00:18:53.220><c> compete</c><00:18:53.520><c> with</c><00:18:53.640><c> the</c><00:18:53.820><c> larger</c>

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they can kind of compete with the larger
 

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they can kind of compete with the larger
node<00:18:54.660><c> operators</c>

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this<00:18:57.720><c> is</c><00:18:57.840><c> a</c><00:18:57.960><c> particularly</c><00:18:58.760><c> interesting</c><00:18:59.760><c> when</c>

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this is a particularly interesting when
 

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this is a particularly interesting when
you<00:19:00.059><c> think</c><00:19:00.120><c> about</c><00:19:00.299><c> Mev</c><00:19:01.039><c> Mev</c><00:19:02.539><c> you</c><00:19:03.539><c> can</c><00:19:03.720><c> have</c><00:19:03.960><c> on</c>

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you think about Mev Mev you can have on
 

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you think about Mev Mev you can have on
average<00:19:04.679><c> you</c><00:19:04.980><c> can</c><00:19:05.100><c> you</c><00:19:05.280><c> can</c><00:19:05.460><c> earn</c><00:19:05.820><c> you</c><00:19:06.120><c> know</c><00:19:06.240><c> a</c>

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average you can you can earn you know a
 

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average you can you can earn you know a
decent<00:19:07.320><c> amount</c><00:19:07.440><c> from</c><00:19:07.740><c> Mev</c><00:19:08.220><c> but</c><00:19:08.940><c> every</c><00:19:09.120><c> now</c><00:19:09.299><c> and</c>

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decent amount from Mev but every now and
 

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decent amount from Mev but every now and
again<00:19:09.539><c> there'll</c><00:19:10.020><c> be</c><00:19:10.080><c> one</c><00:19:10.320><c> of</c><00:19:10.380><c> these</c><00:19:10.500><c> Lottery</c>

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again there'll be one of these Lottery
 

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again there'll be one of these Lottery
blocks<00:19:11.539><c> the</c><00:19:12.539><c> highest</c><00:19:12.840><c> block</c><00:19:13.140><c> I</c><00:19:13.380><c> think</c><00:19:13.500><c> that's</c>

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blocks the highest block I think that's
 

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blocks the highest block I think that's
recorded<00:19:14.340><c> was</c><00:19:14.760><c> 100</c><00:19:14.940><c> East</c><00:19:15.299><c> block</c>

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recorded was 100 East block
 

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recorded was 100 East block
um that<00:19:17.100><c> doesn't</c><00:19:17.220><c> happen</c><00:19:17.400><c> very</c><00:19:17.640><c> often</c><00:19:17.940><c> uh</c><00:19:18.780><c> but</c>

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um that doesn't happen very often uh but
 

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um that doesn't happen very often uh but
that<00:19:19.140><c> hence</c><00:19:19.320><c> why</c><00:19:19.500><c> it's</c><00:19:19.679><c> a</c><00:19:19.799><c> lottery</c><00:19:19.919><c> block</c><00:19:20.280><c> but</c>

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that hence why it's a lottery block but
 

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that hence why it's a lottery block but
if<00:19:20.940><c> you</c><00:19:21.059><c> do</c><00:19:21.120><c> get</c><00:19:21.299><c> one</c><00:19:21.419><c> of</c><00:19:21.539><c> those</c><00:19:21.600><c> blocks</c>

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if you do get one of those blocks
 

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if you do get one of those blocks
then<00:19:23.400><c> this</c><00:19:23.820><c> is</c><00:19:23.940><c> what</c><00:19:24.179><c> the</c><00:19:24.299><c> smoothing</c><00:19:24.660><c> pool</c>

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then this is what the smoothing pool
 

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then this is what the smoothing pool
helps<00:19:25.260><c> with</c>

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so<00:19:28.620><c> I'm</c><00:19:28.740><c> Darren</c><00:19:29.100><c> Langley</c>

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so I'm Darren Langley
 

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so I'm Darren Langley
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um I'm from rocketball you can catch me
 

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um I'm from rocketball you can catch me
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on Twitter and that's me thank you very
 

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on Twitter and that's me thank you very
much

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much
 

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much
[Applause]

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hi my name is Benjamin with
 

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hi my name is Benjamin with
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rubicon.finance I wanted to ask I
 

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rubicon.finance I wanted to ask I
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understand rocket pull nodes are
 

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understand rocket pull nodes are
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collateralized with RPL how do you
 

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collateralized with RPL how do you
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protect against a tail rest scenario
 

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protect against a tail rest scenario
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where if the price of RPL eth is is
 

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where if the price of RPL eth is is
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dropping the average collateralization
 

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dropping the average collateralization
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of the network uh starts to fall and how
 

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of the network uh starts to fall and how
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can the protocol like uh become robust
 

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can the protocol like uh become robust
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uh in light of basically uh you know
 

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uh in light of basically uh you know
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relying on RPL youth price to guarantee
 

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relying on RPL youth price to guarantee
security

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security
 

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security
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so in actual fact uh so RPL is used as a
 

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so in actual fact uh so RPL is used as a
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backstop so the the first thing that
 

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backstop so the the first thing that
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they we so with a with a rocket pool
 

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they we so with a with a rocket pool
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node uh the node operator supplies 16
 

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node uh the node operator supplies 16
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each and the liquid stakers Supply 16
 

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each and the liquid stakers Supply 16
Heath

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Heath
 

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Heath
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um and then the node operator also
 

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um and then the node operator also
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supplies to marpl like it's minimum of
 

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supplies to marpl like it's minimum of
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10 so it's about 1.68
 

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10 so it's about 1.68
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um and uh but the eth is hit first so if
 

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um and uh but the eth is hit first so if
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they if they get slashed or um if if
 

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they if they get slashed or um if if
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they you know if they're an absolutely
 

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they you know if they're an absolutely
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terrible node operator and then
 

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terrible node operator and then
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essentially their ether it gets hit
 

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essentially their ether it gets hit
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first and then RPO is used as a backstop
 

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first and then RPO is used as a backstop
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because you can actually lose a little
 

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because you can actually lose a little
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bit more than 16 in like a like the
 

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bit more than 16 in like a like the
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okay

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multi-part question okay so first part
 

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multi-part question okay so first part
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um how hard is it to run a rocket pool
 

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um how hard is it to run a rocket pool
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node like you need to know Unix or can
 

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node like you need to know Unix or can
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you just run a script and it installs
 

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you just run a script and it installs
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everything second part okay how many
 

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everything second part okay how many
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nodes can you run on one powerful PC
 

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nodes can you run on one powerful PC
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right cool okay good question uh so
 

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right cool okay good question uh so
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running a rocket pool no you do need to
 

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running a rocket pool no you do need to
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know probably a little bit about
 

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know probably a little bit about
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um Unix maybe you can run it on
 

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um Unix maybe you can run it on
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different things we don't necessarily
 

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different things we don't necessarily
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support Windows
 

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support Windows
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um but you can run it on on then a Linux
 

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um but you can run it on on then a Linux
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box you do need to know a little bit
 

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box you do need to know a little bit
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about Linux uh speeding up a rocketball
 

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about Linux uh speeding up a rocketball
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node is I think pretty much four
 

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node is I think pretty much four
commands

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commands
 

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commands
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um in your and it's four commands and
 

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um in your and it's four commands and
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you've you've spun up a validating node
 

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you've you've spun up a validating node
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um so we've made it we've streamlined
 

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um so we've made it we've streamlined
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the process uh we have this thing called
 

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the process uh we have this thing called
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a smart note stack and it streamlines
 

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a smart note stack and it streamlines
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the process of actually spinning up a
 

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the process of actually spinning up a
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node we connect everything up for you we
 

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node we connect everything up for you we
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handle upgrades for you it's it's really
 

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handle upgrades for you it's it's really
easy

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easy
 

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easy
um the<00:22:02.159><c> other</c><00:22:02.280><c> question</c><00:22:02.580><c> the</c><00:22:02.820><c> other</c><00:22:02.940><c> part</c><00:22:03.120><c> of</c>

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um the other question the other part of
 

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um the other question the other part of
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that question was
 

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that question was
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all right that's right all right that's
 

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all right that's right all right that's
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yeah that's that is a hard question to
 

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yeah that's that is a hard question to
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answer so terminology wise a node is
 

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answer so terminology wise a node is
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like the box that's running it and then
 

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like the box that's running it and then
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you have validators so you can have
 

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you have validators so you can have
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a lot now whether now whether you
 

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a lot now whether now whether you
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whether that's a good idea or not is is
 

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whether that's a good idea or not is is
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another is another matter so what you
 

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another is another matter so what you
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would tend to do is you probably want to
 

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would tend to do is you probably want to
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distribute across multiple nodes
 

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distribute across multiple nodes
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um if you had a lot
 

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um if you had a lot
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um but you can run a lot
 

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um but you can run a lot
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um different clients different consensus
 

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um different clients different consensus
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clients and different execution clients
 

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clients and different execution clients
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have different performance profiles
 

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have different performance profiles
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um but you know yeah you can run a lot
 

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um but you know yeah you can run a lot
on

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I don't think we've I don't think we've
 

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I don't think we've I don't think we've
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um we haven't modeled it uh but it is it
 

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um we haven't modeled it uh but it is it
didn't<00:22:49.440><c> like</c><00:22:49.620><c> the</c><00:22:49.799><c> hundreds</c><00:22:50.220><c> yeah</c>

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didn't like the hundreds yeah
 

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didn't like the hundreds yeah
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it depending on it also depends on the
 

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it depending on it also depends on the
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box if it's a powerful machine then you
 

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box if it's a powerful machine then you
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cool

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cool
 

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cool
yeah all<00:23:04.559><c> right</c><00:23:04.679><c> awesome</c><00:23:04.799><c> thank</c><00:23:05.520><c> you</c><00:23:05.640><c> very</c>

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yeah all right awesome thank you very
 

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yeah all right awesome thank you very
much<00:23:05.820><c> guys</c>

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much guys
 

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much guys
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