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cooperation but what would be quite possible<00:26:46.200> and<00:26:46.320> I<00:26:46.440> think<00:26:46.679> desirable<00:26:47.320> would<00:26:47.480> be 00:26:47.710 --> 00:26:47.720 align:start position:0% possible and I think desirable would be 00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:50.110 align:start position:0% possible and I think desirable would be for<00:26:48.000> people<00:26:48.279> to<00:26:48.480> take<00:26:48.840> those<00:26:49.120> principles<00:26:49.720> that 00:26:50.110 --> 00:26:50.120 align:start position:0% for people to take those principles that 00:26:50.120 --> 00:26:52.870 align:start position:0% for people to take those principles that U<00:26:50.720> vitalic<00:26:51.240> talked<00:26:51.480> a<00:26:51.600> little<00:26:51.760> bit<00:26:51.960> about<00:26:52.799> uh 00:26:52.870 --> 00:26:52.880 align:start position:0% U vitalic talked a little bit about uh 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:56.710 align:start position:0% U vitalic talked a little bit about uh 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position:0% so I like the idea italic just expressed 00:28:30.600 --> 00:28:32.590 align:start position:0% so I like the idea italic just expressed now<00:28:30.799> at<00:28:30.919> the<00:28:31.000> end<00:28:31.320> that<00:28:31.679> one<00:28:31.919> has<00:28:32.080> to<00:28:32.279> correct 00:28:32.590 --> 00:28:32.600 align:start position:0% now at the end that one has to correct 00:28:32.600 --> 00:28:34.789 align:start position:0% now at the end that one has to correct for<00:28:32.880> biases<00:28:33.600> and<00:28:33.760> always<00:28:34.039> be<00:28:34.200> attentive<00:28:34.600> to 00:28:34.789 --> 00:28:34.799 align:start position:0% for biases and always be attentive to 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.029 align:start position:0% for biases and always be attentive to biases<00:28:35.279> now<00:28:35.480> imagine<00:28:36.120> if<00:28:36.279> these<00:28:36.440> ethos<00:28:36.840> were 00:28:37.029 --> 00:28:37.039 align:start position:0% biases now imagine if these 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Bruno<00:28:47.080> said 00:28:47.430 --> 00:28:47.440 align:start position:0% important I would add to what Bruno said 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:51.029 align:start position:0% important I would add to what Bruno said that<00:28:47.919> uh<00:28:48.320> and<00:28:48.600> answering<00:28:48.960> to<00:28:49.120> you<00:28:49.360> alfra<00:28:50.159> that 00:28:51.029 --> 00:28:51.039 align:start position:0% that uh and answering to you alfra that 00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.549 align:start position:0% that uh and answering to you alfra that I<00:28:51.120> think<00:28:51.320> that<00:28:51.519> what<00:28:51.640> we<00:28:51.760> see<00:28:52.080> today<00:28:52.640> in<00:28:53.159> in<00:28:53.320> for 00:28:53.549 --> 00:28:53.559 align:start position:0% I think that what we see today in in for 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:56.149 align:start position:0% I think that what we see today in in for example<00:28:53.960> the<00:28:54.039> etherum<00:28:54.440> ecosystem<00:28:55.000> is<00:28:55.200> 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align:start position:0% Builder dominance if you build a great IDE<00:29:03.200> a<00:29:03.320> great<00:29:03.559> product<00:29:03.919> a<00:29:04.200> a<00:29:04.360> great<00:29:04.760> feature 00:29:05.789 --> 00:29:05.799 align:start position:0% IDE a great product a a great feature 00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:08.389 align:start position:0% IDE a great product a a great feature whatever<00:29:06.799> nobody<00:29:07.200> cares<00:29:07.679> where<00:29:07.919> you<00:29:08.080> come 00:29:08.389 --> 00:29:08.399 align:start position:0% whatever nobody cares where you come 00:29:08.399 --> 00:29:11.710 align:start position:0% whatever nobody cares where you come from<00:29:09.240> nobody<00:29:09.559> cares<00:29:10.519> who<00:29:10.760> you<00:29:10.919> are<00:29:11.279> I<00:29:11.399> mean 00:29:11.710 --> 00:29:11.720 align:start position:0% from nobody cares who you are I mean 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.430 align:start position:0% from nobody cares who you are I mean 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this 00:33:36.120 --> 00:33:40.149 align:start position:0% the world I would actually just say this conference<00:33:37.120> and<00:33:37.840> I<00:33:38.159> think<00:33:39.159> the<00:33:39.279> reason<00:33:39.799> why<00:33:40.039> I 00:33:40.149 --> 00:33:40.159 align:start position:0% conference and I think the reason why I 00:33:40.159 --> 00:33:42.310 align:start position:0% conference and I think the reason why I say<00:33:40.480> this<00:33:40.679> is<00:33:40.960> that<00:33:41.240> like<00:33:41.480> the<00:33:41.799> like<00:33:42.000> I<00:33:42.080> think 00:33:42.310 --> 00:33:42.320 align:start position:0% say this is that like the like I think 00:33:42.320 --> 00:33:44.669 align:start position:0% say this is that like the like I think this<00:33:42.519> particular<00:33:43.039> one<00:33:43.360> actually<00:33:44.120> even<00:33:44.399> more 00:33:44.669 --> 00:33:44.679 align:start position:0% this particular one actually even more 00:33:44.679 --> 00:33:48.190 align:start position:0% this particular one actually even more than<00:33:45.120> any<00:33:45.320> of<00:33:45.519> the<00:33:45.960> previous<00:33:46.440> ones<00:33:47.440> I've<00:33:47.600> seen 00:33:48.190 --> 00:33:48.200 align:start position:0% than any of the previous ones I've seen 00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:52.350 align:start position:0% than any of the previous ones I've seen it<00:33:48.840> uh<00:33:49.840> really<00:33:50.480> shows<00:33:50.840> and<00:33:51.039> makes<00:33:51.320> obvious<00:33:51.960> the 00:33:52.350 --> 00:33:52.360 align:start position:0% it uh really shows and makes obvious the 00:33:52.360 --> 00:33:54.950 align:start position:0% it uh really shows and makes obvious the fact<00:33:52.679> that<00:33:53.120> etherum<00:33:53.720> as<00:33:53.840> an<00:33:54.000> ecosystem<00:33:54.679> really 00:33:54.950 --> 00:33:54.960 align:start position:0% fact that etherum as an ecosystem really 00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.549 align:start position:0% fact 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align:start position:0% conference was uh that and I think like to<00:34:39.240> me<00:34:39.399> the<00:34:39.560> key<00:34:39.760> thing<00:34:40.000> right<00:34:40.159> is<00:34:40.359> the 00:34:40.589 --> 00:34:40.599 align:start position:0% to me the key thing right is the 00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.510 align:start position:0% to me the key thing right is the combination<00:34:41.280> between<00:34:41.800> like<00:34:42.040> that<00:34:42.760> freedom<00:34:43.200> of 00:34:43.510 --> 00:34:43.520 align:start position:0% combination between like that freedom of 00:34:43.520 --> 00:34:46.589 align:start position:0% combination between like that freedom of anyone<00:34:44.000> to<00:34:44.760> participate<00:34:45.359> and<00:34:45.800> start<00:34:46.200> and<00:34:46.399> to 00:34:46.589 --> 00:34:46.599 align:start position:0% anyone to participate and start and to 00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:49.230 align:start position:0% anyone to participate and start and to 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other and everyone 00:35:02.200 --> 00:35:04.670 align:start position:0% competing with each other and everyone was<00:35:02.839> stuck<00:35:03.160> in<00:35:03.320> traffic<00:35:03.760> even<00:35:03.960> more<00:35:04.240> jumping 00:35:04.670 --> 00:35:04.680 align:start position:0% was stuck in traffic even more jumping 00:35:04.680 --> 00:35:07.390 align:start position:0% was stuck in traffic even more jumping between<00:35:05.040> them<00:35:05.480> for<00:35:05.800> like<00:35:06.000> between<00:35:06.880> one<00:35:07.119> hour 00:35:07.390 --> 00:35:07.400 align:start position:0% between them for like between one hour 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:13.270 align:start position:0% between them for like between one hour and<00:35:07.560> the<00:35:07.720> next<00:35:08.480> um<00:35:08.800> so<00:35:09.760> I<00:35:09.960> think<00:35:10.680> uh<00:35:11.680> just<00:35:12.280> like 00:35:13.270 --> 00:35:13.280 align:start position:0% and the next um so I think uh just like 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position:0% academic disciplines and uh intellectual um<00:35:40.280> emphas<00:35:40.720> is<00:35:41.000> like<00:35:41.520> it<00:35:41.720> really<00:35:42.079> proves<00:35:42.720> uh 00:35:42.829 --> 00:35:42.839 align:start position:0% um emphas is like it really proves uh 00:35:42.839 --> 00:35:45.270 align:start position:0% um emphas is like it really proves uh for<00:35:43.040> me<00:35:43.280> personally<00:35:43.960> that<00:35:44.680> ethereum 00:35:45.270 --> 00:35:45.280 align:start position:0% for me personally that ethereum 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.349 align:start position:0% for me personally that ethereum continues<00:35:45.760> to<00:35:45.920> be<00:35:46.119> the<00:35:46.240> kind<00:35:46.400> of<00:35:46.560> ecosystem 00:35:47.349 --> 00:35:47.359 align:start position:0% continues to be the kind of ecosystem 00:35:47.359 --> 00:35:49.670 align:start position:0% continues to be the kind of ecosystem that<00:35:47.760> like<00:35:48.320> actually<00:35:48.720> has<00:35:48.960> the<00:35:49.359> uh 00:35:49.670 --> 00:35:49.680 align:start position:0% that like actually has the uh 00:35:49.680 --> 00:35:51.950 align:start position:0% that like actually has the uh ingredients<00:35:50.319> to<00:35:50.520> keep<00:35:50.960> generating<00:35:51.520> the 00:35:51.950 --> 00:35:51.960 align:start position:0% ingredients to keep generating the 00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:54.589 align:start position:0% ingredients to keep generating the solutions<00:35:52.480> that<00:35:52.599> people<00:35:52.920> need<00:35:53.160> going 00:35:54.589 --> 00:35:54.599 align:start position:0% solutions that people need going 00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:56.990 align:start position:0% solutions that people need going forward<00:35:55.599> appreciate<00:35:56.040> that<00:35:56.200> this<00:35:56.319> is<00:35:56.520> a<00:35:56.839> quite 00:35:56.990 --> 00:35:57.000 align:start position:0% forward appreciate that this is a quite 00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:58.710 align:start position:0% forward appreciate that this is a quite a<00:35:57.160> positive<00:35:57.440> note 00:35:58.710 --> 00:35:58.720 align:start position:0% a positive note 00:35:58.720 --> 00:36:03.530 align:start position:0% a positive note um<00:35:59.079> and 00:36:03.530 --> 00:36:03.540 align:start position:0% 00:36:03.540 --> 00:36:04.620 align:start position:0% [Music] 00:36:04.620 --> 00:36:04.630 align:start position:0% [Music] 00:36:04.630 --> 00:36:06.069 align:start position:0% [Music] [Applause] 00:36:06.069 --> 00:36:06.079 align:start position:0% [Applause] 00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:09.750 align:start position:0% [Applause] uh<00:36:07.079> uh<00:36:07.880> I<00:36:08.000> have<00:36:08.400> one<00:36:08.720> last<00:36:09.040> question<00:36:09.400> is<00:36:09.560> for 00:36:09.750 --> 00:36:09.760 align:start position:0% uh uh I have one last question is for 00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:12.030 align:start position:0% uh uh I have one last question is for all<00:36:09.920> 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change uh next one is humans seem to 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:23.190 align:start position:0% change uh next one is humans seem to require<00:48:20.680> religion<00:48:21.280> as<00:48:21.400> a<00:48:21.599> source<00:48:22.000> of<00:48:22.240> identity 00:48:23.190 --> 00:48:23.200 align:start position:0% require religion as a source of identity 00:48:23.200 --> 00:48:25.430 align:start position:0% require religion as a source of identity on<00:48:23.359> the<00:48:23.520> other<00:48:23.800> hand<00:48:24.319> religion<00:48:24.880> on<00:48:25.000> the<00:48:25.160> state 00:48:25.430 --> 00:48:25.440 align:start position:0% on the other hand religion on the state 00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:27.950 align:start position:0% on the other hand religion on the state level<00:48:25.720> leads<00:48:26.240> to<00:48:26.400> a<00:48:26.559> bad<00:48:26.839> B<00:48:27.040> outcomes<00:48:27.680> for 00:48:27.950 --> 00:48:27.960 align:start position:0% level leads to a bad B outcomes for 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love<00:49:53.440> this 00:49:53.630 --> 00:49:53.640 align:start position:0% and lets the poor suffer I I love this 00:49:53.640 --> 00:49:55.190 align:start position:0% and lets the poor suffer I I love this question<00:49:54.040> and<00:49:54.160> I<00:49:54.280> guess<00:49:54.480> vitalic<00:49:54.839> wants<00:49:55.000> to 00:49:55.190 --> 00:49:55.200 align:start position:0% question and I guess vitalic wants to 00:49:55.200 --> 00:49:57.309 align:start position:0% question and I guess vitalic wants to answer<00:49:55.400> it<00:49:56.000> yeah<00:49:56.200> I<00:49:56.280> mean<00:49:56.520> I<00:49:56.839> think<00:49:57.119> uh 00:49:57.309 --> 00:49:57.319 align:start position:0% answer it yeah I mean I think uh 00:49:57.319 --> 00:49:59.190 align:start position:0% answer it yeah I mean I think uh realistically<00:49:58.119> there's<00:49:58.680> good<00:49:58.839> and<00:49:59.000> bad 00:49:59.190 --> 00:49:59.200 align:start position:0% realistically there's good and bad 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yet I shall volunteer my labor to to to to<00:53:53.440> uh<00:53:53.559> to<00:53:53.720> read<00:53:53.960> the<00:53:54.440> questions<00:53:55.440> um<00:53:56.200> my<00:53:56.559> answer 00:53:56.990 --> 00:53:57.000 align:start position:0% to uh to read the questions um my answer 00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:01.349 align:start position:0% to uh to read the questions um my answer is<00:53:57.680> um<00:53:58.680> I<00:53:58.839> think<00:53:59.520> um<00:54:00.319> um<00:54:00.599> a<00:54:00.680> lot<00:54:00.839> of<00:54:00.920> the<00:54:01.040> Venture 00:54:01.349 --> 00:54:01.359 align:start position:0% is um I think um um a lot of the Venture 00:54:01.359 --> 00:54:03.910 align:start position:0% is um I think um um a lot of the Venture money<00:54:01.599> come<00:54:01.760> from<00:54:01.920> the<00:54:02.079> US<00:54:02.799> and<00:54:03.200> uh<00:54:03.520> and<00:54:03.640> Asia 00:54:03.910 --> 00:54:03.920 align:start position:0% money come from the US and uh and Asia 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nation have before the sake of 00:55:26.359 --> 00:55:28.670 align:start position:0% nation have before the sake of individual 00:55:28.670 --> 00:55:28.680 align:start position:0% individual 00:55:28.680 --> 00:55:30.710 align:start position:0% individual experience<00:55:29.680> and<00:55:29.799> I<00:55:29.920> do<00:55:30.039> think<00:55:30.200> it's<00:55:30.319> a<00:55:30.440> false 00:55:30.710 --> 00:55:30.720 align:start position:0% experience and I do think it's a false 00:55:30.720 --> 00:55:33.430 align:start position:0% experience and I do think it's a false dichotomy<00:55:31.400> because<00:55:32.039> you<00:55:32.799> it<00:55:33.000> it's<00:55:33.160> not 00:55:33.430 --> 00:55:33.440 align:start position:0% dichotomy because you it it's not 00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:36.470 align:start position:0% dichotomy because you it it's not liberalism<00:55:34.039> versus<00:55:34.480> collectivism<00:55:35.480> it's 00:55:36.470 --> 00:55:36.480 align:start position:0% 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