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hello uh all right so this is going to
 

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hello uh all right so this is going to
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be a uh a quick one um uh so I I'll try
 

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be a uh a quick one um uh so I I'll try
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to go fast but hopefully keep it
 

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to go fast but hopefully keep it
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comprehensible so yeah my name is Mike
 

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comprehensible so yeah my name is Mike
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Sadam founder and CE of ethery uh and my
 

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Sadam founder and CE of ethery uh and my
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lens on the uh the crypto space is that
 

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lens on the uh the crypto space is that
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I come from a web to uh back ground and
 

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I come from a web to uh back ground and
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so one of the things that I want to talk
 

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so one of the things that I want to talk
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about is what are some of the lessons
 

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about is what are some of the lessons
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that web 3 Founders can learn from uh
 

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that web 3 Founders can learn from uh
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the web 2
 

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the web 2
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Universe uh so just to give you a little
 

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Universe uh so just to give you a little
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bit about uh my background uh I got into
 

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bit about uh my background uh I got into
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crypto super early bought some Bitcoin
 

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crypto super early bought some Bitcoin
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back in uh 2011 that's like the actual
 

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back in uh 2011 that's like the actual
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confirmation email uh it was about a
 

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confirmation email uh it was about a
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dollar per Bitcoin at that time there
 

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dollar per Bitcoin at that time there
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weren't even exchanges I had to just
 

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weren't even exchanges I had to just
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internet Forum uh which was fun uh then
 

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internet Forum uh which was fun uh then
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around the same time I started a company
 

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around the same time I started a company
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called Top Hat uh which was a web 2 uh
 

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called Top Hat uh which was a web 2 uh
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company in B2B SAS so specifically we
 

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company in B2B SAS so specifically we
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were doing um uh education software for
 

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were doing um uh education software for
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universities so which is a very
 

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universities so which is a very
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challenging Market to be in uh spent
 

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challenging Market to be in uh spent
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about 10 years uh growing that company
 

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about 10 years uh growing that company
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uh it ended up being pretty successful
 

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uh it ended up being pretty successful
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we got it up to around 450 employees
 

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we got it up to around 450 employees
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with 65 million Revenue uh and then sold
 

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with 65 million Revenue uh and then sold
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2021 uh it was a great great outcome uh
 

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2021 uh it was a great great outcome uh
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and so then I decided to do pretty much
 

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and so then I decided to do pretty much
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the exact opposite as far as you can get
 

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the exact opposite as far as you can get
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from education software which was my
 

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from education software which was my
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first Passion crypto and started ethery
 

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first Passion crypto and started ethery
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2022 uh and that's gone uh remarkably
 

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well we've been humbled at at all our
 

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well we've been humbled at at all our
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success we the number four def5 protocol
 

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success we the number four def5 protocol
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uh by by tvl at least about 8 billion in
 

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uh by by tvl at least about 8 billion in
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tvl given current eth price um um and
 

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tvl given current eth price um um and
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yeah run 30 million revenue and growing
 

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yeah run 30 million revenue and growing
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super fast you know couldn't be more
 

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super fast you know couldn't be more
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excited about it uh one of the reasons I
 

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excited about it uh one of the reasons I
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would say that ethery has been
 

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would say that ethery has been
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successful is because uh we've taken
 

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successful is because uh we've taken
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sort of the discipline and mechanics of
 

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sort of the discipline and mechanics of
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operation of the business and brought it
 

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to the uh uh the defi world and so what
 

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to the uh uh the defi world and so what
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I want to do is just talk about you know
 

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I want to do is just talk about you know
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what what are some of those lessons so
 

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what what are some of those lessons so
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you know the curse of crypto is that
 

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you know the curse of crypto is that
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there's way too much money uh in the
 

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there's way too much money uh in the
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space uh you know there's just a ton of
 

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space uh you know there's just a ton of
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gambling money coming from the great uh
 

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gambling money coming from the great uh
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you know casinos in the sky uh and that
 

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you know casinos in the sky uh and that
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actually the effect that ends up having
 

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actually the effect that ends up having
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is crowding out uh real product
 

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is crowding out uh real product
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development because it basically
 

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development because it basically
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eliminates the need in many cases for
 

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eliminates the need in many cases for
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getting product Market fit if you're
 

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getting product Market fit if you're
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doing you know a web 2 more traditional
 

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doing you know a web 2 more traditional
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SAS type of business the the cycle of
 

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SAS type of business the the cycle of
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that business looks roughly like this
 

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that business looks roughly like this
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you acquire a customer you get the
 

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customer to give you dollars uh you then
 

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customer to give you dollars uh you then
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keep that customer by you're providing a
 

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keep that customer by you're providing a
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good service then you reinvest that back
 

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good service then you reinvest that back
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into R&amp;D and then the customer is happy
 

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into R&amp;D and then the customer is happy
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and there's a nice positive feedback
 

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and there's a nice positive feedback
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loop uh in web 3 it looks a little bit
 

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loop uh in web 3 it looks a little bit
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different uh usually you uh you know you
 

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different uh usually you uh you know you
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find a project that's really cool cool
 

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find a project that's really cool cool
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maybe a nice Dex uh you launch a token
 

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maybe a nice Dex uh you launch a token
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uh you vest your tokens you cash out and
 

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uh you vest your tokens you cash out and
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then you're done uh it's a great
 

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then you're done uh it's a great
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business model super easy to uh make
 

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business model super easy to uh make
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really you know shocking amounts of
 

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really you know shocking amounts of
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money uh doing it that way but when the
 

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money uh doing it that way but when the
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main business model is basically
 

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main business model is basically
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printing casino chips uh and then taking
 

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printing casino chips uh and then taking
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a rake uh you know this is why we can't
 

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a rake uh you know this is why we can't
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have nice things so uh so what I'd like
 

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have nice things so uh so what I'd like
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to do is talk about like what are some
 

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to do is talk about like what are some
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of the principles that you can use uh to
 

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of the principles that you can use uh to
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uh to construct uh projects that
 

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uh to construct uh projects that
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sustainability and the reason they're
 

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sustainability and the reason they're
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important is because there's actually I
 

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important is because there's actually I
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guess what I would say is almost a
 

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guess what I would say is almost a
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science around this stuff uh um uh that
 

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science around this stuff uh um uh that
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that goes into putting together these
 

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that goes into putting together these
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businesses that are sustainable so that
 

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businesses that are sustainable so that
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you can answer this question you know is
 

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you can answer this question you know is
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your project a viable project does it
 

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your project a viable project does it
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have some sustainability or is check
 

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have some sustainability or is check
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check or
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Ponzi uh okay so here's some quick
 

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Ponzi uh okay so here's some quick
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definitions so we're going to run
 

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definitions so we're going to run
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through this really fast CAC is is cost
 

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through this really fast CAC is is cost
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of customer acquisition or customer
 

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retain uh you know one cohort of
 

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retain uh you know one cohort of
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dollar retention is how many dollars
 

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you're retaining from one time period to
 

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another LTV is lifetime value so these
 

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another LTV is lifetime value so these
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are kind of like the key I mean there's
 

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are kind of like the key I mean there's
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probably dozens of other metrics but
 

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probably dozens of other metrics but
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these are the key ones that you need to
 

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these are the key ones that you need to
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remember and the main question is are
 

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remember and the main question is are
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you even measuring these because if
 

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you even measuring these because if
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you're not even measuring measuring
 

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you're not even measuring measuring
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these things uh you're you're probably
 

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these things uh you're you're probably
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more in the or you're you're lending
 

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more in the or you're you're lending
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yourself more to being in the Ponzi Camp
 

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yourself more to being in the Ponzi Camp
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uh okay so what ises that what does this
 

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uh okay so what ises that what does this
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look like well this is the the
 

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look like well this is the the
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fundamental kind of mechanic of customer
 

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fundamental kind of mechanic of customer
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acquisition you spend a bunch of money
 

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acquisition you spend a bunch of money
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let's say you spend $5,000 to acquire a
 

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let's say you spend $5,000 to acquire a
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customer and then every month you get a
 

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customer and then every month you get a
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little bit of money from that customer
 

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little bit of money from that customer
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maybe it's a DEX you spend some money to
 

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maybe it's a DEX you spend some money to
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acquire them Sal was a marketing BD
 

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acquire them Sal was a marketing BD
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whatever and then the user trades and
 

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whatever and then the user trades and
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that generates revenue for the project
 

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that generates revenue for the project
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over some period of time until the
 

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over some period of time until the
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customer turns at some point and so at
 

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some point you know you go from negative
 

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some point you know you go from negative
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let's say you spend $5,000 to acquire
 

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let's say you spend $5,000 to acquire
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the customer and then the customer pays
 

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the customer and then the customer pays
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pays themselves back over time you go to
 

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pays themselves back over time you go to
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you know cash flow positive and then
 

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you know cash flow positive and then
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ideally if you at some point pay back
 

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ideally if you at some point pay back
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the cost of acquisition the project
 

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the cost of acquisition the project
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actually makes sense so the the rough
 

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actually makes sense so the the rough
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your CAC needs to be greater than three
 

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your CAC needs to be greater than three
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why there's lots of reasons for that but
 

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why there's lots of reasons for that but
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to be you know a top quartile kind of
 

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to be you know a top quartile kind of
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company you want to make sure that your
 

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company you want to make sure that your
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lifetime value of your customer is worth
 

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lifetime value of your customer is worth
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more than 3x the cost to acquire that
 

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more than 3x the cost to acquire that
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customer and you want to make sure that
 

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customer and you want to make sure that
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the payback period is less than 12
 

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business if your payback period is like
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isn't going to work uh whereas otherwise
 

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isn't going to work uh whereas otherwise
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you you get a really nice growth craft
 

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you you get a really nice growth craft
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okay I'm over time um uh so the other
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thing that matters is churn uh you want
 

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to make sure that you're growing uh your
 

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faster than the customers that you're
 

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churning out uh if you have high churn
 

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churning out uh if you have high churn
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you basically Plateau because the
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cohorts all kind of compressed and go to
 

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cohorts all kind of compressed and go to
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zero if uh you have a negative churn
 

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zero if uh you have a negative churn
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then uh you know it grows really nicely
 

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then uh you know it grows really nicely
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okay so the first step I would say is in
 

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okay so the first step I would say is in
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summary uh you got to measure these
 

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summary uh you got to measure these
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things if you don't know these numbers
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then you're you're going to have a bad
 

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then you're you're going to have a bad
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time uh and there's a real science to
 

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time uh and there's a real science to
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this so I encourage you to go out there
 

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this so I encourage you to go out there
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and uh uh research about how this
 

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and uh uh research about how this
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science is put together so that you can
 

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science is put together so that you can
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build more sustainable project that uh
 

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build more sustainable project that uh
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you thank you Mike so we have time for a
 

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you thank you Mike so we have time for a
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questions it's a
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bit can I over there behind you
 

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bit can I over there behind you
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thank you what's your most valuable
 

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thank you what's your most valuable
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channel uh I think for most projects uh
 

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channel uh I think for most projects uh
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I mean it's it's X or Twitter um uh that
 

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I mean it's it's X or Twitter um uh that
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just you know that that tends to drive
 

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just you know that that tends to drive
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uh most uh most customer acquisition uh
 

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uh most uh most customer acquisition uh
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and then Word of Mouth uh you know
 

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and then Word of Mouth uh you know
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there's in in the SAS world uh there's a
 

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there's in in the SAS world uh there's a
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parameter called the K Factor how many
 

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parameter called the K Factor how many
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customers does each customer refer so I
 

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customers does each customer refer so I
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think in crypto it's pretty much uh
 

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think in crypto it's pretty much uh
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hey uh love the presentation thank you
 

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hey uh love the presentation thank you
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for the pricing strategy 101 reminder
 

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for the pricing strategy 101 reminder
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that was great as a double founder in
 

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that was great as a double founder in
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web 2 and web 3 what's your take on the
 

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web 2 and web 3 what's your take on the
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fact that the majority of the people in
 

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fact that the majority of the people in
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crypto come from like successful company
 

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crypto come from like successful company
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successful business school we majority
 

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successful business school we majority
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all know this but collectively we are
 

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all know this but collectively we are
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not able to do the basics to deliver
 

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not able to do the basics to deliver
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insightful projects I'd love to hear
 

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insightful projects I'd love to hear
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your take on that yeah I mean I guess I
 

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your take on that yeah I mean I guess I
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just to uh so first of all I would say
 

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just to uh so first of all I would say
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the operating chops in crypto are pretty
 

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the operating chops in crypto are pretty
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low I mean the just being honest the
 

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low I mean the just being honest the
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average founder that you meet in crypto
 

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average founder that you meet in crypto
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tends to uh not have very strong
 

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tends to uh not have very strong
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operating chops huge amount of money
 

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operating chops huge amount of money
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wasted um Without Really any
 

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wasted um Without Really any
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consideration for for Roi uh you know
 

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consideration for for Roi uh you know
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companies just they're they're not run
 

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companies just they're they're not run
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super efficiently and so you see
 

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super efficiently and so you see
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projects that are even some of the
 

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largest projects in crypto that should
 

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largest projects in crypto that should
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be just absolutely printing money uh
 

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be just absolutely printing money uh
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that are instead just hemorrhaging money
 

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that are instead just hemorrhaging money
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incomprehensibly a complete lack of
 

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incomprehensibly a complete lack of
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financial literacy people that think you
 

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financial literacy people that think you
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know token emissions are revenue and
 

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know token emissions are revenue and
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other Insanity um so uh so I don't know
 

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other Insanity um so uh so I don't know
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I mean maybe maybe it's because it's
 

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I mean maybe maybe it's because it's
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just so easy to make money by doing the
 

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just so easy to make money by doing the
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the Ponzi stuff versus doing the the
 

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the Ponzi stuff versus doing the the
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hard work um you know we're okay I can
 

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hard work um you know we're okay I can
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talk more about that but I'll stop
 

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talk more about that but I'll stop
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there thank you very much um so please
 

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there thank you very much um so please
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sorry we would have more time for
 

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sorry we would have more time for
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questions um so thank you very much for
 

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questions um so thank you very much for
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