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hello everyone um excited to be here uh
 

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hello everyone um excited to be here uh
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I am the CEO of polygon labs for those
 

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I am the CEO of polygon labs for those
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of you who don't know polygon Labs or
 

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of you who don't know polygon Labs or
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specifically who don't know what polygon
 

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specifically who don't know what polygon
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Labs does because we do many things uh
 

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Labs does because we do many things uh
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we are a core contributor to the Ager
 

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we are a core contributor to the Ager
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along with many others we've also
 

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along with many others we've also
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developed multiple blockchains being
 

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developed multiple blockchains being
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polygon POS that pretty much everyone
 

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polygon POS that pretty much everyone
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knows as as well as uh polygon
 

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knows as as well as uh polygon
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zkm so I'm going to go through like a
 

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zkm so I'm going to go through like a
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little bit of of History before actually
 

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little bit of of History before actually
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kind of attacking what exactly we mean
 

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kind of attacking what exactly we mean
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by aggregation um and specifically when
 

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by aggregation um and specifically when
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I want to look at and people talk a lot
 

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I want to look at and people talk a lot
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about like not kind of looking at
 

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about like not kind of looking at
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analogies but if we think of like what
 

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analogies but if we think of like what
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we want web 3 to be um we really want it
 

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we want web 3 to be um we really want it
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to eat as much of web 2 up as possible
 

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to eat as much of web 2 up as possible
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Right like we should be able to scale
 

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Right like we should be able to scale
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web 3 to the size of web too and so the
 

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web 3 to the size of web too and so the
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question then becomes well you know how
 

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question then becomes well you know how
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did the internet become the internet and
 

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did the internet become the internet and
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if you think about it the internet
 

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if you think about it the internet
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actually started very fragmented um it
 

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actually started very fragmented um it
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very disconnected with multiple networks
 

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very disconnected with multiple networks
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unable to communicate and then new
 

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protocols came along um and specifically
 

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protocols came along um and specifically
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things like TCP IP came along and what
 

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things like TCP IP came along and what
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you now had what you suddenly had was
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this diversity in uh what could be built
 

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this diversity in uh what could be built
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bu on the internet um and the
 

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infrastructure underlying it but with
 

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some common protocols um and
 

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some common protocols um and
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specifically what you get there is
 

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specifically what you get there is
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tcpip and it's very important to
 

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tcpip and it's very important to
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actually understand this because a lot
 

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actually understand this because a lot
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of people say like how are we going to
 

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of people say like how are we going to
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bring together all of web 3 when you've
 

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bring together all of web 3 when you've
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got so much disperate technology in web
 

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got so much disperate technology in web
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3 you've got different Stacks you've got
 

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different VMS like everything looks
 

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different VMS like everything looks
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different but we actually have an
 

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different but we actually have an
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example of bringing together different
 

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and actually feels like one so let's
 

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and actually feels like one so let's
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talk about like specific problems we see
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in web 3 and why this is actually very
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relevant right we've got fragmentation
 

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relevant right we've got fragmentation
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as an issue I think this is an obvious
 

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and frankly just poor ux if we look at
 

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and frankly just poor ux if we look at
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each of these one by one what do we have
 

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each of these one by one what do we have
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right now we've got a bunch of chains uh
 

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right now we've got a bunch of chains uh
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and liquidity is fragmented across all
 

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and liquidity is fragmented across all
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of these chains we really have no good
 

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of these chains we really have no good
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way of bringing them together at all
 

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way of bringing them together at all
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similarly we've got a scalability
 

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similarly we've got a scalability
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problem if we want web 3 to scale to the
 

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problem if we want web 3 to scale to the
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size of the internet then we should
 

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size of the internet then we should
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probably compare to like what currently
 

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probably compare to like what currently
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is using the internet and when we look
 

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is using the internet and when we look
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at that what we see things is Mastercard
 

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at that what we see things is Mastercard
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Visa NASDAQ um and I do not believe we
 

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Visa NASDAQ um and I do not believe we
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actually have a network that can handle
 

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actually have a network that can handle
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the load of any of those I think we've
 

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the load of any of those I think we've
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heard many state that they want
 

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heard many state that they want
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blockchains to be able to handle um you
 

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blockchains to be able to handle um you
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know a a load like NASDAQ and that is
 

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know a a load like NASDAQ and that is
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250,000 transactions per second which no
 

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250,000 transactions per second which no
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network is even close to being able to
 

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network is even close to being able to
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handle in any way whatsoever uh I
 

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handle in any way whatsoever uh I
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actually just as a little side note I'll
 

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actually just as a little side note I'll
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give you a few side notes during this
 

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give you a few side notes during this
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presentation but this is a little
 

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presentation but this is a little
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interesting fact is let's just assume
 

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interesting fact is let's just assume
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that we could actually scale a
 

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that we could actually scale a
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blockchain to the size of NASDAQ um
 

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blockchain to the size of NASDAQ um
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NASDAQ can execute transactions with
 

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latency of 50 microc seconds um you are
 

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latency of 50 microc seconds um you are
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not going to execute any transaction on
 

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not going to execute any transaction on
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a blockchain in 50 microc seconds so I
 

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think our dreams of bringing NASDAQ on
 

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think our dreams of bringing NASDAQ on
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chain should probably recognize the fact
 

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chain should probably recognize the fact
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that there's some things that are
 

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that there's some things that are
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actually better in a centralized State
 

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actually better in a centralized State
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and there's some things that are better
 

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and there's some things that are better
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in a decentralized state obviously this
 

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in a decentralized state obviously this
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does not mean that we don't want
 

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does not mean that we don't want
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decentralized exchanges it means that
 

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decentralized exchanges it means that
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there's specific technologies that serve
 

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there's specific technologies that serve
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specific purposes and you know we should
 

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specific purposes and you know we should
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probably focus on like more longtail
 

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probably focus on like more longtail
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assets in a decentralized way when we
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want perfect performance execution uh
 

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want perfect performance execution uh
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and then when we just want censorship
 

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and then when we just want censorship
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resistance then we should probably bring
 

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resistance then we should probably bring
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that onchain third one is security right
 

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that onchain third one is security right
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now you know when you look at like many
 

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now you know when you look at like many
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different networks and how they come
 

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different networks and how they come
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together you know we talk about concepts
 

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together you know we talk about concepts
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of like shared sequencers and intents
 

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of like shared sequencers and intents
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and bridges and like most of that is not
 

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and bridges and like most of that is not
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actually very secure even though it
 

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actually very secure even though it
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actually works decently in in some cases
 

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actually works decently in in some cases
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and lastly the ux challenge we've got a
 

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and lastly the ux challenge we've got a
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a ux problem whether it's cross wallets
 

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a ux problem whether it's cross wallets
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Bridges and intents chains um basically
 

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Bridges and intents chains um basically
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what you get is this this fragmented
 

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what you get is this this fragmented
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feeling um across the board and so then
 

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feeling um across the board and so then
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the question becomes what do you do
 

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the question becomes what do you do
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about this um and the first answer that
 

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about this um and the first answer that
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we tried to give or that many do still
 

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we tried to give or that many do still
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give is let's just use a monolithic
 

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give is let's just use a monolithic
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chain salana can solve this for you
 

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chain salana can solve this for you
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because something something something um
 

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because something something something um
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well you know most of the time that
 

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well you know most of the time that
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something isn't going to be good enough
 

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something isn't going to be good enough
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because literally we have seen that we
 

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because literally we have seen that we
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can't even scale to some of the the the
 

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can't even scale to some of the the the
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smallest networks that are good for
 

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smallest networks that are good for
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payments in the world or the biggest
 

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payments in the world or the biggest
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ones uh and so like the idea that like
 

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ones uh and so like the idea that like
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we're going to throw everything on one
 

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we're going to throw everything on one
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chain is not happening and so we need to
 

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chain is not happening and so we need to
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go look at another
 

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go look at another
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solution uh the other solution um was
 

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solution uh the other solution um was
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why don't we just scale through modular
 

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why don't we just scale through modular
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chains right but the problem is modular
 

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chains right but the problem is modular
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chains increase fragmentation we see it
 

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chains increase fragmentation we see it
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today you've got you know polygon zkm
 

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today you've got you know polygon zkm
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polygon POS you've got ZK sync era
 

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polygon POS you've got ZK sync era
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you've got you know arbitrum one you've
 

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you've got you know arbitrum one you've
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got open main net you could keep going
 

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got open main net you could keep going
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on and on and like great this is nice
 

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on and on and like great this is nice
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like being able to choose how you want
 

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like being able to choose how you want
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to spin up a chain is great it actually
 

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to spin up a chain is great it actually
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solves the scalability issue right
 

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solves the scalability issue right
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because now when you need more block
 

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because now when you need more block
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space What do you do you spin up a new
 

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space What do you do you spin up a new
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chain and with time this is actually
 

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chain and with time this is actually
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going to get easier and easier right
 

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going to get easier and easier right
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like right now people want to sell you
 

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like right now people want to sell you
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on the idea that spinning up a new chain
 

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on the idea that spinning up a new chain
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is easy like frankly it's actually not
 

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is easy like frankly it's actually not
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that easy uh but if you fast forward 12
 

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that easy uh but if you fast forward 12
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months from now and 24 months from now
 

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months from now and 24 months from now
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and 36 months from now you're going to
 

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and 36 months from now you're going to
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get to a point where spinning up a new
 

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get to a point where spinning up a new
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chain is actually incredibly easy and
 

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chain is actually incredibly easy and
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when you need to increase um throughput
 

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and increase block space then you're
 

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and increase block space then you're
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going to spin up a new chain to actually
 

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going to spin up a new chain to actually
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be able to do that um and so through
 

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be able to do that um and so through
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like kind of the the modular approach we
 

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like kind of the the modular approach we
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can actually solve scalability the
 

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can actually solve scalability the
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problem is we still don't have one
 

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problem is we still don't have one
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unified web three if we do that and so
 

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unified web three if we do that and so
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the answer to this is just aggregate all
 

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the answer to this is just aggregate all
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the chains and so what does aggregation
 

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the chains and so what does aggregation
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actually allow for it actually allows us
 

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actually allow for it actually allows us
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to scale web 3 to the size of the
 

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to scale web 3 to the size of the
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internet what are the things that we
 

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internet what are the things that we
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need to do this first we need
 

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need to do this first we need
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practically infinite scalability and
 

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practically infinite scalability and
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that's what you get when you can spin up
 

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that's what you get when you can spin up
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new chains very easily when more demand
 

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new chains very easily when more demand
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is needed because there's or when there
 

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is needed because there's or when there
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is more demand and so more block space
 

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is more demand and so more block space
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is needed uh and then the second one is
 

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is needed uh and then the second one is
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you need to be able to like unify State
 

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you need to be able to like unify State
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users and if you really think of like
 

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users and if you really think of like
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the north star of what we should be
 

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the north star of what we should be
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targeting we should really want to be
 

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targeting we should really want to be
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able to have a web 3 and an ethereum
 

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able to have a web 3 and an ethereum
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that scales as much as you need in a
 

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that scales as much as you need in a
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unified way making you believe that you
 

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unified way making you believe that you
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are using one chain while you are using
 

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are using one chain while you are using
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time and that that 100,000 chains can
 

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time and that that 100,000 chains can
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become 125,000 chains at any point in
 

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become 125,000 chains at any point in
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time and it still feels like one
 

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time and it still feels like one
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internet so when we've thought about
 

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internet so when we've thought about
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this problem and how we want to solve
 

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this problem and how we want to solve
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this problem exactly um we started
 

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this problem exactly um we started
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thinking about it um and we realized
 

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thinking about it um and we realized
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that we needed to create like a neutral
 

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that we needed to create like a neutral
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platform um and so this is concept of
 

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platform um and so this is concept of
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the a layer polygon Labs is a
 

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the a layer polygon Labs is a
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contributor along with many others that
 

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contributor along with many others that
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I will show you uh a little bit later
 

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I will show you uh a little bit later
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later but the general idea was that we
 

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later but the general idea was that we
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need some kind of like neutral
 

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need some kind of like neutral
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cross-chain settlement platform that
 

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cross-chain settlement platform that
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unifies liquidity users and state um and
 

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unifies liquidity users and state um and
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that ultimately has finality on ethereum
 

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that ultimately has finality on ethereum
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now very importantly the a layer is
 

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now very importantly the a layer is
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actually not intended to scale only
 

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actually not intended to scale only
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ethereum and there's a reason for this
 

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ethereum and there's a reason for this
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which is that as amazing as ethereum is
 

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which is that as amazing as ethereum is
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what do people actually value in web 3
 

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what do people actually value in web 3
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they value assets and there's always
 

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they value assets and there's always
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going to be assets outside of ethereum
 

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going to be assets outside of ethereum
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and we need to be able to get people to
 

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and we need to be able to get people to
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come to ethereum and stay on ethereum
 

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come to ethereum and stay on ethereum
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and the only way to do that is to allow
 

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and the only way to do that is to allow
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them to use or to receive or send assets
 

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them to use or to receive or send assets
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to another chain that is not ethereum
 

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to another chain that is not ethereum
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and the only way to do that is to
 

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and the only way to do that is to
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aggregate those chains along with
 

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aggregate those chains along with
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ethereum and all chains on them and so
 

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ethereum and all chains on them and so
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that is a big part of kind of the Ager
 

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that is a big part of kind of the Ager
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is really bringing everything together
 

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is really bringing everything together
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and ultimately having finality on
 

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and ultimately having finality on
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ethereum maybe let me talk to you about
 

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ethereum maybe let me talk to you about
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kind of like the different components of
 

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kind of like the different components of
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the agay really think about it in like
 

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the agay really think about it in like
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four different parts um a lot of times
 

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four different parts um a lot of times
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when people hear the agay or anything
 

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when people hear the agay or anything
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that has to do with
 

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that has to do with
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interoperability they immediately
 

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interoperability they immediately
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default to it's a bridge it's nothing
 

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default to it's a bridge it's nothing
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but a bridge and this is simply because
 

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but a bridge and this is simply because
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when we think of the forms of
 

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when we think of the forms of
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interoperability that we have had to go
 

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interoperability that we have had to go
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cross chain over the last many years we
 

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cross chain over the last many years we
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default to Bridges layer zeros the
 

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default to Bridges layer zeros the
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wormholes things like that um and then
 

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wormholes things like that um and then
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more recently people start thinking of
 

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more recently people start thinking of
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cross chain transactions as being things
 

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cross chain transactions as being things
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driven by intents um but people don't
 

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driven by intents um but people don't
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really think holistically about
 

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really think holistically about
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everything that you need to get like
 

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everything that you need to get like
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safety when fragmenting when there's a
 

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safety when fragmenting when there's a
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fragmented web 3 that you want to bring
 

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fragmented web 3 that you want to bring
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together so let me talk through kind of
 

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together so let me talk through kind of
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these four different components of the a
 

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these four different components of the a
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layer uh first one is the pessimistic
 

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layer uh first one is the pessimistic
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proof
 

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proof
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so the most important thing if you want
 

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so the most important thing if you want
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to bring chains together is to ensure
 

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to bring chains together is to ensure
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that no one chain can rug another chain
 

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that no one chain can rug another chain
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right like if I have gone to a chain I
 

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right like if I have gone to a chain I
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have decided this is a chain that I
 

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have decided this is a chain that I
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trust um or like many frankly haven't
 

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trust um or like many frankly haven't
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paid attention but I'm still assuming
 

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paid attention but I'm still assuming
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Trust on that chain and when I send a
 

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Trust on that chain and when I send a
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transaction cross chain or I'm receiving
 

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transaction cross chain or I'm receiving
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an asset from another chain I need to be
 

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an asset from another chain I need to be
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100% sure that the only thing I am
 

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100% sure that the only thing I am
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trusting is that chain that I am on and
 

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trusting is that chain that I am on and
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this is basically what the pessimistic
 

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this is basically what the pessimistic
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proof does what it does is it looks at
 

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proof does what it does is it looks at
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all assets that come into a chain it
 

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all assets that come into a chain it
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looks at all assets that are leaving a
 

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looks at all assets that are leaving a
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chain and we call this chain level
 

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chain and we call this chain level
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accounting and basically what the
 

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accounting and basically what the
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pessimistic proof does it then ensures
 

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pessimistic proof does it then ensures
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that when an asset wants to leave a
 

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that when an asset wants to leave a
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chain it is not an asset that is in
 

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chain it is not an asset that is in
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excess of any assets that have come into
 

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excess of any assets that have come into
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it so if you've had you know 10 eth come
 

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it so if you've had you know 10 eth come
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into a chain then you can't have more
 

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into a chain then you can't have more
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than 10 eth leave that chain and this is
 

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than 10 eth leave that chain and this is
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what the pessimistic proof enforces now
 

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what the pessimistic proof enforces now
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the interesting thing about this
 

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the interesting thing about this
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pessimistic proof is that it is not just
 

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pessimistic proof is that it is not just
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enforcing uh it is not just enforcing
 

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enforcing uh it is not just enforcing
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this for chains that have proofs right
 

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this for chains that have proofs right
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so so a lot of times people think okay
 

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so so a lot of times people think okay
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the the layer or that polygon is working
 

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the the layer or that polygon is working
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on like ZK technology so like you you
 

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on like ZK technology so like you you
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you look at polygon zkm or exay and
 

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you look at polygon zkm or exay and
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you're like hey this uses execution
 

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you're like hey this uses execution
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proofs and so the AG requires execution
 

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proofs and so the AG requires execution
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proofs the reality is the AG is actually
 

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proofs the reality is the AG is actually
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completely agnostic to that um you could
 

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completely agnostic to that um you could
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have execution proofs you could have
 

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have execution proofs you could have
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fraud proofs you can have some form of
 

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fraud proofs you can have some form of
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consensus that can be proven or you can
 

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consensus that can be proven or you can
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straight up have a
 

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straight up have a
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database pessimistic proof doesn't care
 

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database pessimistic proof doesn't care
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it's going to look at what assets came
 

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it's going to look at what assets came
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in what assets have left and whether an
 

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in what assets have left and whether an
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asset that wants to leave or be be
 

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asset that wants to leave or be be
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removed from there can and so that's
 

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removed from there can and so that's
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kind of like the guarantee you get the
 

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kind of like the guarantee you get the
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pessimistic proof is that regardless of
 

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pessimistic proof is that regardless of
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what it is that a chain like the form of
 

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what it is that a chain like the form of
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a chain you can prove um facts about
 

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a chain you can prove um facts about
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that chain and specifically on on
 

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that chain and specifically on on
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something like a a polygon POS that has
 

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something like a a polygon POS that has
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a validator set you can prove the
 

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a validator set you can prove the
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consensus of polygon POS so that you can
 

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consensus of polygon POS so that you can
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confidently actually have transactions
 

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confidently actually have transactions
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go go cross chain uh next one is proof
 

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go go cross chain uh next one is proof
aggregation

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aggregation
 

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aggregation
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a lot of people think the proof agation
 

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a lot of people think the proof agation
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is whatow the interoperability in the
 

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is whatow the interoperability in the
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all proof agregation is it lowers C of
 

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all proof agregation is it lowers C of
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transacting on chains connected to the
 

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transacting on chains connected to the
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AG and using the AG specifically what it
 

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AG and using the AG specifically what it
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does is you get a ZK proof and this
 

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does is you get a ZK proof and this
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could be the pessimistic proof or it
 

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could be the pessimistic proof or it
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could be an execution proof on a chain
 

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could be an execution proof on a chain
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and what it does is it wraps those
 

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and what it does is it wraps those
proofs<00:12:49.440><c> together</c><00:12:50.079><c> and</c><00:12:50.160><c> then</c><00:12:50.320><c> wraps</c><00:12:50.600><c> those</c>

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proofs together and then wraps those
 

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proofs together and then wraps those
proofs<00:12:51.040><c> together</c><00:12:51.279><c> and</c><00:12:51.360><c> then</c><00:12:51.480><c> wraps</c><00:12:51.760><c> those</c>

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proofs together and then wraps those
 

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proofs together and then wraps those
proofs<00:12:52.199><c> together</c><00:12:52.519><c> and</c><00:12:52.600><c> then</c><00:12:52.720><c> submits</c><00:12:53.040><c> them</c><00:12:53.199><c> to</c>

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proofs together and then submits them to
 

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proofs together and then submits them to
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ethereum if you were to submit each of
 

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ethereum if you were to submit each of
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those proofs to ethereum on their own it
 

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those proofs to ethereum on their own it
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would be incredibly expensive and so
 

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would be incredibly expensive and so
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this is how you're able to lower the
 

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this is how you're able to lower the
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cost so that it is incredibly cheap to
 

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cost so that it is incredibly cheap to
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execute these cross-chain transactions
 

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execute these cross-chain transactions
next<00:13:06.040><c> thing</c><00:13:06.199><c> is</c><00:13:06.279><c> there's</c><00:13:06.440><c> a</c><00:13:06.560><c> unified</c><00:13:06.959><c> bridge</c>

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next thing is there's a unified bridge
 

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next thing is there's a unified bridge
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this is a bridge on uh ethereum and that
 

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this is a bridge on uh ethereum and that
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bridge is uh the bridge used to create
 

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bridge is uh the bridge used to create
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canonical assets that allows for all
 

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canonical assets that allows for all
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transactions going across the agay to be
 

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transactions going across the agay to be
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done in fungible assets meaning that you
 

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done in fungible assets meaning that you
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don't have wrapped assets and then
 

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don't have wrapped assets and then
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unwrapped assets and then lastly there's
 

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unwrapped assets and then lastly there's
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this concept of fast interupt the a
 

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this concept of fast interupt the a
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layer with nothing else going between
 

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layer with nothing else going between
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two chains especially two l2s is going
 

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two chains especially two l2s is going
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to settle at the speed of of you know
 

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to settle at the speed of of you know
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ethereum settlement and so we're going
 

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ethereum settlement and so we're going
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to be looking at like
 

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to be looking at like
15minute<00:13:41.800><c> um</c><00:13:42.040><c> cross</c><00:13:42.279><c> chain</c><00:13:42.519><c> transactions</c>

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15minute um cross chain transactions
 

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15minute um cross chain transactions
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which isn't good enough and so the goal
 

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which isn't good enough and so the goal
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with fast interrupt is to lower that
 

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with fast interrupt is to lower that
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Lany to just a few seconds rather than
 

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Lany to just a few seconds rather than
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minutes so like what are the benefits of
 

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minutes so like what are the benefits of
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this um first of all is you get these
 

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this um first of all is you get these
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native tokens um look I I think Cosmos
 

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native tokens um look I I think Cosmos
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has done many correct things but when
 

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has done many correct things but when
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you go and you use Cosmos um the
 

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you go and you use Cosmos um the
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experience of having many many unwrapped
 

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experience of having many many unwrapped
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tokens uh WRA tokens uh and moving those
 

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tokens uh WRA tokens uh and moving those
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around and figuring out what these
 

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around and figuring out what these
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assets are and the same has become true
 

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assets are and the same has become true
uh<00:14:15.320><c> within</c><00:14:15.519><c> the</c><00:14:15.639><c> ethereum</c><00:14:16.079><c> ecosystem</c><00:14:16.639><c> as</c><00:14:16.759><c> well</c>

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uh within the ethereum ecosystem as well
 

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uh within the ethereum ecosystem as well
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like that is not a good user experience
 

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like that is not a good user experience
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second is we need safe cross-chain
 

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second is we need safe cross-chain
transactions<00:14:22.839><c> you</c><00:14:22.959><c> know</c><00:14:23.240><c> as</c><00:14:23.320><c> of</c><00:14:23.560><c> right</c><00:14:23.720><c> now</c>

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transactions you know as of right now
 

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transactions you know as of right now
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when we use bridges that we use like
 

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when we use bridges that we use like
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most of the time these are not actually
 

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most of the time these are not actually
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very safe for inter operability and we
 

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very safe for inter operability and we
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actually need something to add safety um
 

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actually need something to add safety um
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sometimes we talk about like shared
 

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sometimes we talk about like shared
sequencers<00:14:35.000><c> as</c><00:14:35.199><c> providing</c><00:14:36.040><c> like</c><00:14:36.199><c> Atomic</c>

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sequencers as providing like Atomic
 

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sequencers as providing like Atomic
composability<00:14:37.199><c> again</c><00:14:38.199><c> you</c><00:14:38.360><c> need</c><00:14:38.560><c> something</c>

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composability again you need something
 

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composability again you need something
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to actually make that safe and
 

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to actually make that safe and
trustless<00:14:42.360><c> and</c><00:14:42.680><c> importantly</c><00:14:43.240><c> this</c><00:14:43.320><c> is</c><00:14:43.440><c> where</c>

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trustless and importantly this is where
 

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trustless and importantly this is where
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you get the concept of compatibility is
 

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you get the concept of compatibility is
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the AG layer often is viewed as like
 

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the AG layer often is viewed as like
competitive<00:14:49.560><c> with</c><00:14:50.160><c> all</c><00:14:50.320><c> of</c><00:14:50.519><c> these</c><00:14:50.720><c> different</c>

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competitive with all of these different
 

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competitive with all of these different
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options that people hear about for
 

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options that people hear about for
interoperability<00:14:53.360><c> purposes</c><00:14:54.320><c> um</c><00:14:54.519><c> but</c><00:14:54.639><c> it</c>

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interoperability purposes um but it
 

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interoperability purposes um but it
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actually really isn't it's a very
 

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actually really isn't it's a very
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low-level base layer that is compatible
 

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low-level base layer that is compatible
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with most of these so if you want to do
 

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with most of these so if you want to do
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an asynchronous transaction you use the
 

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an asynchronous transaction you use the
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AG layer but if you want a synchronous
 

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AG layer but if you want a synchronous
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transaction then you would actually use
 

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transaction then you would actually use
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a shared sequencer with the added
 

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a shared sequencer with the added
security<00:15:10.160><c> of</c><00:15:10.360><c> the</c><00:15:10.680><c> agay</c><00:15:11.680><c> um</c><00:15:12.040><c> if</c><00:15:12.160><c> you</c><00:15:12.240><c> want</c><00:15:12.360><c> to</c>

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security of the agay um if you want to
 

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security of the agay um if you want to
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use intents those are expensive they
 

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use intents those are expensive they
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require capital on two different pools
 

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require capital on two different pools
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you need to rebalance that Capital
 

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you need to rebalance that Capital
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rebalancing that Capital has risk and
 

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rebalancing that Capital has risk and
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time associated with it you can lower
 

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time associated with it you can lower
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that risk in time allowing for
 

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that risk in time allowing for
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rebalancing much quicker allowing for
 

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rebalancing much quicker allowing for
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users to get transactions at a cheaper
 

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users to get transactions at a cheaper
cost

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cost
 

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cost
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um and so good good experience there and
 

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um and so good good experience there and
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so the goal when when we're thinking
 

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so the goal when when we're thinking
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about building the Ager with the other
 

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about building the Ager with the other
contributors<00:15:35.800><c> is</c><00:15:36.000><c> really</c><00:15:36.319><c> like</c><00:15:36.440><c> how</c><00:15:36.560><c> do</c><00:15:36.680><c> we</c>

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contributors is really like how do we
 

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contributors is really like how do we
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make this the best uh experience
 

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make this the best uh experience
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possible and that includes from a cost
 

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possible and that includes from a cost
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perspective when working with other
 

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perspective when working with other
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Solutions out there next like the Ager
 

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Solutions out there next like the Ager
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if you think about it is really like an
 

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if you think about it is really like an
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asset first protocol you're actually
 

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asset first protocol you're actually
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passing assets from one chain to another
 

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passing assets from one chain to another
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and this is different from other
 

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and this is different from other
interoperability<00:15:53.480><c> solutions</c><00:15:53.839><c> that</c><00:15:53.920><c> are</c>

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interoperability solutions that are
 

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interoperability solutions that are
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generally passing messages but the AG
 

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generally passing messages but the AG
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does allow for passing messages as well
 

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does allow for passing messages as well
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which is necessary and something that
 

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which is necessary and something that
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can be done um next is it actually
 

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can be done um next is it actually
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enables the concept of like chain
 

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enables the concept of like chain
abstraction<00:16:06.440><c> I</c><00:16:06.519><c> think</c><00:16:06.600><c> chain</c><00:16:06.839><c> abstraction</c><00:16:07.319><c> is</c>

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abstraction I think chain abstraction is
 

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abstraction I think chain abstraction is
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a very nebulous concept that if you ask
 

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a very nebulous concept that if you ask
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10 people what is chain abstraction 10
 

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10 people what is chain abstraction 10
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people will give you different answers
 

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people will give you different answers
um<00:16:13.959><c> the</c><00:16:14.120><c> way</c><00:16:14.279><c> that</c><00:16:14.399><c> I</c><00:16:14.560><c> often</c><00:16:14.800><c> think</c><00:16:15.040><c> about</c><00:16:15.199><c> it</c>

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um the way that I often think about it
 

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um the way that I often think about it
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is like the the AG layer allows for um
 

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is like the the AG layer allows for um
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easy use of chain abstraction and like
 

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easy use of chain abstraction and like
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one example of this is a library that
 

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one example of this is a library that
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we've built that we refer to as bridge
 

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we've built that we refer to as bridge
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and call um and so this is a library
 

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and call um and so this is a library
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that uh allows for uh users to basically
 

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that uh allows for uh users to basically
execute<00:16:32.600><c> uh</c><00:16:32.720><c> one</c><00:16:32.920><c> transaction</c><00:16:33.560><c> themselves</c><00:16:34.399><c> um</c>

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execute uh one transaction themselves um
 

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execute uh one transaction themselves um
but<00:16:34.720><c> they're</c><00:16:34.920><c> actually</c><00:16:35.120><c> executing</c><00:16:35.519><c> multiple</c>

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but they're actually executing multiple
 

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but they're actually executing multiple
transactions<00:16:36.399><c> across</c><00:16:36.680><c> chain</c><00:16:37.040><c> so</c><00:16:37.360><c> imagine</c>

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transactions across chain so imagine
 

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transactions across chain so imagine
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that you wanted to um Bridge funds from
 

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that you wanted to um Bridge funds from
ethereum<00:16:41.959><c> to</c><00:16:42.240><c> polygon</c><00:16:42.639><c> Z</c><00:16:42.880><c> KVM</c><00:16:43.800><c> and</c><00:16:43.920><c> then</c><00:16:44.000><c> you</c>

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ethereum to polygon Z KVM and then you
 

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ethereum to polygon Z KVM and then you
wanted<00:16:44.360><c> to</c><00:16:44.560><c> swap</c><00:16:45.279><c> those</c><00:16:46.160><c> assets</c><00:16:47.160><c> um</c><00:16:47.440><c> into</c>

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wanted to swap those assets um into
 

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wanted to swap those assets um into
different<00:16:48.160><c> assets</c><00:16:48.800><c> and</c><00:16:48.920><c> then</c><00:16:49.079><c> transfer</c><00:16:49.519><c> them</c>

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different assets and then transfer them
 

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different assets and then transfer them
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over to X layer and then buy an nft with
 

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over to X layer and then buy an nft with
the<00:16:53.360><c> bridge</c><00:16:53.600><c> and</c><00:16:53.759><c> call</c><00:16:54.079><c> function</c><00:16:54.839><c> you</c><00:16:54.959><c> can</c><00:16:55.120><c> do</c>

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the bridge and call function you can do
 

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the bridge and call function you can do
that<00:16:55.560><c> and</c><00:16:55.639><c> so</c><00:16:55.759><c> you</c><00:16:55.839><c> can</c><00:16:56.040><c> imagine</c><00:16:56.399><c> a</c><00:16:56.560><c> wallet</c>

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that and so you can imagine a wallet
 

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that and so you can imagine a wallet
that<00:16:57.160><c> abstracts</c><00:16:57.639><c> that</c><00:16:57.759><c> all</c><00:16:57.920><c> away</c><00:16:58.199><c> and</c>

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that abstracts that all away and
 

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that abstracts that all away and
basically<00:16:59.000><c> says</c><00:16:59.519><c> hey</c><00:16:59.639><c> do</c><00:16:59.759><c> you</c><00:16:59.839><c> want</c><00:16:59.920><c> to</c><00:17:00.079><c> do</c><00:17:00.399><c> you</c>

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basically says hey do you want to do you
 

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basically says hey do you want to do you
know<00:17:01.040><c> this</c><00:17:01.560><c> this</c><00:17:01.759><c> bridge</c><00:17:02.560><c> transfer</c><00:17:03.319><c> and</c><00:17:03.480><c> then</c>

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know this this bridge transfer and then
 

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know this this bridge transfer and then
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this Swap and then transfer it and then
 

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this Swap and then transfer it and then
buy<00:17:06.280><c> this</c><00:17:06.400><c> nft</c><00:17:07.360><c> click</c><00:17:07.679><c> one</c><00:17:07.959><c> button</c><00:17:08.600><c> and</c><00:17:09.319><c> you</c>

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buy this nft click one button and you
 

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buy this nft click one button and you
know<00:17:09.640><c> it's</c><00:17:09.799><c> calling</c><00:17:10.079><c> multiple</c><00:17:10.439><c> functions</c><00:17:10.760><c> in</c>

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know it's calling multiple functions in
 

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know it's calling multiple functions in
the<00:17:11.000><c> background</c><00:17:11.880><c> and</c><00:17:12.319><c> you've</c><00:17:12.640><c> abstracted</c>

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the background and you've abstracted
 

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the background and you've abstracted
away<00:17:13.439><c> the</c><00:17:13.559><c> entire</c><00:17:13.919><c> kind</c><00:17:14.039><c> of</c><00:17:14.160><c> cross-chain</c>

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away the entire kind of cross-chain
 

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away the entire kind of cross-chain
experience<00:17:15.959><c> um</c><00:17:16.400><c> and</c><00:17:16.520><c> then</c><00:17:16.720><c> lastly</c><00:17:17.039><c> it</c>

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experience um and then lastly it
 

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experience um and then lastly it
provides<00:17:17.480><c> for</c><00:17:17.679><c> this</c><00:17:17.880><c> low</c><00:17:18.280><c> interoperability</c>

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provides for this low interoperability
 

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provides for this low interoperability
uh<00:17:19.360><c> low</c><00:17:19.520><c> latency</c><00:17:20.480><c> in</c><00:17:20.640><c> terms</c><00:17:20.880><c> of</c><00:17:21.039><c> these</c>

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uh low latency in terms of these
 

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uh low latency in terms of these
cross-chain<00:17:22.240><c> transactions</c><00:17:23.240><c> again</c><00:17:23.439><c> it</c>

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cross-chain transactions again it
 

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cross-chain transactions again it
doesn't<00:17:23.839><c> provide</c><00:17:24.280><c> synchronous</c><00:17:25.280><c> um</c>

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doesn't provide synchronous um
 

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doesn't provide synchronous um
interoperability<00:17:26.360><c> that's</c><00:17:26.559><c> something</c><00:17:26.880><c> that</c>

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interoperability that's something that
 

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interoperability that's something that
by<00:17:27.480><c> working</c><00:17:27.760><c> with</c><00:17:27.880><c> shared</c><00:17:28.199><c> sequencers</c>

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by working with shared sequencers
 

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by working with shared sequencers
secured<00:17:29.360><c> by</c><00:17:29.480><c> the</c><00:17:29.600><c> AG</c><00:17:29.840><c> layer</c><00:17:30.840><c> you</c><00:17:31.000><c> can</c><00:17:31.240><c> receive</c>

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secured by the AG layer you can receive
 

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secured by the AG layer you can receive
but<00:17:32.080><c> it's</c><00:17:32.240><c> not</c><00:17:32.400><c> something</c><00:17:32.640><c> that</c><00:17:32.760><c> the</c><00:17:32.919><c> AG</c><00:17:33.080><c> layer</c>

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but it's not something that the AG layer
 

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but it's not something that the AG layer
gives

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gives
 

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gives
natively<00:17:35.240><c> this</c><00:17:35.400><c> is</c><00:17:35.559><c> the</c><00:17:35.679><c> AG</c><00:17:35.840><c> layer</c><00:17:36.120><c> ecosystem</c>

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natively this is the AG layer ecosystem
 

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natively this is the AG layer ecosystem
multiple<00:17:37.280><c> contributors</c><00:17:38.280><c> um</c><00:17:38.400><c> we're</c><00:17:38.559><c> always</c>

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multiple contributors um we're always
 

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multiple contributors um we're always
looking<00:17:38.960><c> to</c><00:17:39.160><c> work</c><00:17:39.360><c> with</c><00:17:39.520><c> more</c><00:17:39.760><c> folks</c><00:17:40.039><c> on</c><00:17:40.280><c> this</c>

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looking to work with more folks on this
 

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looking to work with more folks on this
one<00:17:40.840><c> thing</c><00:17:41.000><c> you'll</c><00:17:41.160><c> notice</c><00:17:41.440><c> is</c><00:17:41.559><c> the</c><00:17:41.679><c> agair</c><00:17:42.039><c> is</c>

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one thing you'll notice is the agair is
 

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one thing you'll notice is the agair is
not<00:17:42.280><c> called</c><00:17:42.480><c> the</c><00:17:42.600><c> polygon</c><00:17:42.960><c> agair</c><00:17:43.960><c> uh</c><00:17:44.160><c> this</c><00:17:44.240><c> is</c>

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not called the polygon agair uh this is
 

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not called the polygon agair uh this is
very<00:17:44.640><c> intentional</c><00:17:45.480><c> we've</c><00:17:45.840><c> talked</c><00:17:46.160><c> to</c><00:17:46.799><c> every</c>

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very intentional we've talked to every
 

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very intentional we've talked to every
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big team in the ethereum ecosystem and
 

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big team in the ethereum ecosystem and
most<00:17:49.559><c> outside</c><00:17:49.960><c> of</c><00:17:50.120><c> it</c><00:17:50.840><c> goal</c><00:17:51.120><c> is</c><00:17:51.240><c> to</c><00:17:51.360><c> get</c>

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most outside of it goal is to get
 

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most outside of it goal is to get
everybody<00:17:51.880><c> to</c><00:17:52.120><c> contribute</c><00:17:52.559><c> so</c><00:17:52.720><c> that</c><00:17:52.880><c> we</c><00:17:53.000><c> can</c>

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everybody to contribute so that we can
 

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everybody to contribute so that we can
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have a non-fragmented web 3 as a whole
 

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have a non-fragmented web 3 as a whole
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allowing for ethereum to grow and used
 

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allowing for ethereum to grow and used
without<00:18:00.080><c> actually</c><00:18:00.480><c> needing</c><00:18:00.840><c> to</c><00:18:01.200><c> to</c><00:18:01.400><c> leave</c>

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without actually needing to to leave
 

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without actually needing to to leave
ethereum<00:18:03.320><c> um</c><00:18:04.320><c> a</c><00:18:04.480><c> very</c><00:18:04.679><c> important</c><00:18:05.000><c> point</c><00:18:05.280><c> is</c>

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ethereum um a very important point is
 

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ethereum um a very important point is
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that Ager is not rcking like if you look
 

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that Ager is not rcking like if you look
at<00:18:08.919><c> a</c><00:18:09.240><c> lot</c><00:18:09.440><c> of</c><00:18:09.679><c> different</c><00:18:09.960><c> interoperability</c>

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at a lot of different interoperability
 

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at a lot of different interoperability
Solutions<00:18:12.000><c> uh</c><00:18:12.120><c> and</c><00:18:12.200><c> a</c><00:18:12.320><c> lot</c><00:18:12.440><c> of</c><00:18:12.600><c> different</c><00:18:13.120><c> of</c>

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Solutions uh and a lot of different of
 

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Solutions uh and a lot of different of
other<00:18:13.480><c> ecosystems</c><00:18:14.120><c> building</c><00:18:14.480><c> out</c>

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other ecosystems building out
 

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other ecosystems building out
interoperability<00:18:16.240><c> um</c><00:18:16.440><c> what</c><00:18:16.559><c> you</c><00:18:16.679><c> end</c><00:18:16.840><c> up</c>

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interoperability um what you end up
 

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interoperability um what you end up
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seeing is um some form of of fee um that
 

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seeing is um some form of of fee um that
is<00:18:22.679><c> uh</c><00:18:23.320><c> placed</c><00:18:23.679><c> on</c><00:18:23.880><c> on</c><00:18:24.039><c> every</c><00:18:24.480><c> transaction</c><00:18:25.480><c> uh</c>

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is uh placed on on every transaction uh
 

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is uh placed on on every transaction uh
and<00:18:25.720><c> it</c><00:18:25.960><c> really</c><00:18:26.480><c> looks</c><00:18:26.720><c> like</c><00:18:26.919><c> kind</c><00:18:27.039><c> of</c><00:18:27.200><c> like</c><00:18:27.320><c> a</c>

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and it really looks like kind of like a
 

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and it really looks like kind of like a
middleman<00:18:28.280><c> form</c><00:18:29.039><c> of</c><00:18:29.280><c> rent</c><00:18:29.559><c> seeking</c><00:18:30.559><c> um</c><00:18:30.919><c> the</c><00:18:31.039><c> a</c>

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middleman form of rent seeking um the a
 

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middleman form of rent seeking um the a
layer<00:18:31.640><c> has</c><00:18:32.120><c> no</c><00:18:33.120><c> fee</c><00:18:33.640><c> for</c><00:18:33.919><c> joining</c><00:18:34.360><c> the</c><00:18:34.520><c> a</c><00:18:34.760><c> layer</c>

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layer has no fee for joining the a layer
 

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layer has no fee for joining the a layer
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there's actually no fee per transaction
 

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there's actually no fee per transaction
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on the AG layer instead what it is is
 

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on the AG layer instead what it is is
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that chains are going to create uh with
 

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that chains are going to create uh with
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as many transactions as they can include
 

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as many transactions as they can include
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um in in their in their consensus or or
 

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um in in their in their consensus or or
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that's part of like the consensus being
 

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that's part of like the consensus being
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satisfied or as part of an execution
 

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satisfied or as part of an execution
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proof and they're going to submit that
 

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proof and they're going to submit that
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to the agare they could choose to submit
 

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to the agare they could choose to submit
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that once a month they could choose to
 

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that once a month they could choose to
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submit that every two seconds they get
 

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submit that every two seconds they get
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to choose how often they actually want
 

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to choose how often they actually want
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to submit a trans a a a proof um to the
 

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to submit a trans a a a proof um to the
Ager<00:19:06.280><c> um</c><00:19:06.520><c> and</c><00:19:06.679><c> that</c><00:19:06.880><c> allows</c><00:19:07.320><c> for</c><00:19:07.799><c> chains</c><00:19:08.440><c> to</c>

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Ager um and that allows for chains to
 

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Ager um and that allows for chains to
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continue to remain uh Sovereign for
 

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continue to remain uh Sovereign for
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example you could think of like a gaming
 

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example you could think of like a gaming
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chain gaming chain is going to say hey
 

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chain gaming chain is going to say hey
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our users don't actually care how often
 

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our users don't actually care how often
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we finalize this chain or they're going
 

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we finalize this chain or they're going
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to accept lower security requirements um
 

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to accept lower security requirements um
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for some per perod of time and so we're
 

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for some per perod of time and so we're
going<00:19:30.159><c> to</c><00:19:30.320><c> submit</c><00:19:30.760><c> proofs</c><00:19:31.679><c> much</c><00:19:31.960><c> less</c>

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going to submit proofs much less
 

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going to submit proofs much less
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frequently than like a defi chain that's
 

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frequently than like a defi chain that's
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going to say hey I want to submit proofs
 

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going to say hey I want to submit proofs
every<00:19:35.799><c> 2</c><00:19:36.000><c> seconds</c><00:19:36.840><c> uh</c><00:19:37.000><c> and</c><00:19:37.120><c> so</c><00:19:37.400><c> by</c><00:19:37.559><c> having</c><00:19:37.760><c> this</c>

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every 2 seconds uh and so by having this
 

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every 2 seconds uh and so by having this
flexibility<00:19:38.520><c> in</c><00:19:38.640><c> the</c><00:19:38.760><c> a</c><00:19:39.200><c> layer</c><00:19:40.200><c> um</c><00:19:40.440><c> it</c><00:19:40.600><c> allows</c>

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flexibility in the a layer um it allows
 

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flexibility in the a layer um it allows
for<00:19:42.000><c> um</c><00:19:42.320><c> people</c><00:19:42.480><c> to</c><00:19:42.600><c> be</c><00:19:42.720><c> able</c><00:19:42.880><c> to</c><00:19:43.080><c> execute</c>

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for um people to be able to execute
 

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for um people to be able to execute
these<00:19:43.600><c> transactions</c><00:19:44.240><c> basically</c><00:19:44.960><c> freely</c><00:19:45.960><c> uh</c>

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these transactions basically freely uh
 

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these transactions basically freely uh
and<00:19:46.200><c> so</c><00:19:46.360><c> basically</c><00:19:46.679><c> what</c><00:19:46.799><c> we</c><00:19:46.919><c> see</c><00:19:47.200><c> here</c><00:19:47.520><c> is</c>

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and so basically what we see here is
 

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and so basically what we see here is
that<00:19:48.000><c> we've</c><00:19:48.280><c> solved</c><00:19:48.960><c> fragmented</c><00:19:49.480><c> liquidity</c>

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that we've solved fragmented liquidity
 

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that we've solved fragmented liquidity
you've<00:19:50.400><c> got</c><00:19:50.600><c> fungible</c><00:19:51.240><c> assets</c><00:19:51.640><c> across</c><00:19:51.960><c> the</c>

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you've got fungible assets across the
 

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you've got fungible assets across the
ecosystem<00:19:53.200><c> you've</c><00:19:53.440><c> solved</c><00:19:53.880><c> scalability</c>

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ecosystem you've solved scalability
 

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ecosystem you've solved scalability
because<00:19:55.120><c> you</c><00:19:55.280><c> have</c><00:19:55.480><c> chains</c><00:19:56.000><c> that</c><00:19:56.080><c> can</c><00:19:56.240><c> be</c><00:19:56.400><c> spun</c>

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because you have chains that can be spun
 

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because you have chains that can be spun
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up at any point in time you've solved
 

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up at any point in time you've solved
security<00:19:59.200><c> with</c><00:19:59.280><c> the</c><00:19:59.440><c> pessimistic</c><00:19:59.960><c> proof</c><00:20:00.280><c> that</c>

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security with the pessimistic proof that
 

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security with the pessimistic proof that
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you can safely go between chains and
 

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you can safely go between chains and
you've<00:20:03.400><c> solved</c><00:20:04.080><c> the</c><00:20:04.240><c> ux</c><00:20:04.720><c> issue</c><00:20:05.480><c> because</c><00:20:05.760><c> you</c>

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you've solved the ux issue because you
 

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you've solved the ux issue because you
can<00:20:06.159><c> now</c><00:20:06.679><c> seamlessly</c><00:20:07.520><c> interoperate</c><00:20:08.240><c> between</c>

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can now seamlessly interoperate between
 

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can now seamlessly interoperate between
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these chains with some of the kind of
 

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these chains with some of the kind of
greatest<00:20:11.520><c> Technologies</c><00:20:12.039><c> around</c><00:20:12.240><c> Shar</c>

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greatest Technologies around Shar
 

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greatest Technologies around Shar
sequencing<00:20:12.960><c> and</c><00:20:13.120><c> intent</c><00:20:13.600><c> that</c><00:20:13.679><c> are</c><00:20:13.799><c> going</c><00:20:13.919><c> to</c>

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sequencing and intent that are going to
 

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sequencing and intent that are going to
be<00:20:14.440><c> part</c><00:20:14.679><c> of</c>

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be part of
 

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be part of
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this and what you end up with is really
 

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this and what you end up with is really
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a unified kind of web three allowing for
 

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a unified kind of web three allowing for
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users to stay in ethereum benefit from
 

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users to stay in ethereum benefit from
assets<00:20:26.200><c> across</c><00:20:26.640><c> every</c><00:20:26.919><c> ecosystem</c>

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assets across every ecosystem
 

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assets across every ecosystem
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and what you see is a web 3 that ends up
 

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and what you see is a web 3 that ends up
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actually being united under some common
 

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actually being united under some common
protocol<00:20:37.320><c> thank</c>

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you<00:20:42.080><c> thank</c><00:20:42.280><c> you</c><00:20:42.440><c> Mark</c><00:20:42.880><c> that</c><00:20:43.000><c> was</c><00:20:43.240><c> quite</c>

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you thank you Mark that was quite
 

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you thank you Mark that was quite
insightful<00:20:44.840><c> uh</c><00:20:44.919><c> we</c><00:20:45.039><c> do</c><00:20:45.200><c> have</c><00:20:45.320><c> a</c><00:20:45.440><c> few</c><00:20:45.679><c> questions</c>

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insightful uh we do have a few questions
 

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insightful uh we do have a few questions
here<00:20:46.679><c> so</c><00:20:46.960><c> who</c><00:20:47.200><c> will</c><00:20:47.600><c> aggregate</c><00:20:48.200><c> the</c>

00:20:49.070 --> 00:20:49.080 align:start position:0%
here so who will aggregate the
 

00:20:49.080 --> 00:20:51.390 align:start position:0%
here so who will aggregate the
aggregators<00:20:50.080><c> that's</c><00:20:50.200><c> a</c><00:20:50.320><c> good</c><00:20:50.520><c> question</c><00:20:50.919><c> um</c><00:20:51.240><c> I</c>

00:20:51.390 --> 00:20:51.400 align:start position:0%
aggregators that's a good question um I
 

00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:53.430 align:start position:0%
aggregators that's a good question um I
don't<00:20:51.720><c> know</c><00:20:52.400><c> um</c><00:20:52.640><c> we</c><00:20:52.720><c> see</c><00:20:52.919><c> this</c><00:20:53.039><c> all</c><00:20:53.120><c> the</c><00:20:53.240><c> time</c>

00:20:53.430 --> 00:20:53.440 align:start position:0%
don't know um we see this all the time
 

00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:55.830 align:start position:0%
don't know um we see this all the time
of<00:20:53.559><c> course</c><00:20:54.360><c> I</c><00:20:54.919><c> I</c><00:20:55.000><c> have</c><00:20:55.159><c> not</c><00:20:55.280><c> been</c><00:20:55.400><c> able</c><00:20:55.600><c> to</c><00:20:55.720><c> have</c>

00:20:55.830 --> 00:20:55.840 align:start position:0%
of course I I have not been able to have
 

00:20:55.840 --> 00:20:58.310 align:start position:0%
of course I I have not been able to have
anyone<00:20:56.159><c> point</c><00:20:56.360><c> to</c><00:20:56.520><c> me</c><00:20:57.120><c> to</c><00:20:57.559><c> another</c><00:20:57.919><c> team</c><00:20:58.200><c> that</c>

00:20:58.310 --> 00:20:58.320 align:start position:0%
anyone point to me to another team that
 

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anyone point to me to another team that
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is actually trying to aggregate um all
 

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is actually trying to aggregate um all
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00:21:06.110 --> 00:21:06.120 align:start position:0%
of web 3 um and so there is nothing that
 

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of web 3 um and so there is nothing that
prevents<00:21:07.120><c> the</c><00:21:07.360><c> a</c><00:21:07.640><c> layer</c><00:21:08.280><c> from</c><00:21:09.120><c> um</c><00:21:09.440><c> being</c>

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prevents the a layer from um being
 

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prevents the a layer from um being
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connected to a chain in the super chain
 

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connected to a chain in the super chain
um<00:21:12.760><c> you</c><00:21:12.880><c> will</c><00:21:13.120><c> actually</c><00:21:13.360><c> see</c><00:21:13.600><c> that</c><00:21:13.799><c> happen</c>

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um you will actually see that happen
 

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um you will actually see that happen
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there is nothing that prevents the agair
 

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there is nothing that prevents the agair
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from being connected to a chain on the
 

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from being connected to a chain on the
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elastic chain there is nothing that
 

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elastic chain there is nothing that
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prevents it from connecting to a an
 

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prevents it from connecting to a an
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orbit chain and so um given that it's a
 

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orbit chain and so um given that it's a
low-level<00:21:25.880><c> solution</c><00:21:26.440><c> you</c><00:21:26.559><c> can</c><00:21:26.760><c> call</c><00:21:26.960><c> it</c><00:21:27.279><c> the</c>

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low-level solution you can call it the
 

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low-level solution you can call it the
aggregator<00:21:28.279><c> of</c><00:21:28.960><c> aggregators</c><00:21:29.960><c> um</c><00:21:30.400><c> and</c><00:21:30.600><c> so</c>

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aggregator of aggregators um and so
 

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aggregator of aggregators um and so
that's<00:21:31.400><c> what</c><00:21:31.559><c> the</c><00:21:31.679><c> AG</c><00:21:32.440><c> provides</c><00:21:33.440><c> all</c><00:21:33.640><c> right</c>

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that's what the AG provides all right
 

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that's what the AG provides all right
and<00:21:34.080><c> what</c><00:21:34.200><c> is</c><00:21:34.360><c> the</c><00:21:34.559><c> difference</c><00:21:35.279><c> with</c>

00:21:36.710 --> 00:21:36.720 align:start position:0%
and what is the difference with
 

00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:39.669 align:start position:0%
and what is the difference with
ccip<00:21:37.720><c> yeah</c><00:21:38.159><c> uh</c><00:21:38.279><c> that's</c><00:21:38.400><c> a</c><00:21:38.559><c> good</c><00:21:38.799><c> question</c><00:21:39.120><c> so</c><00:21:39.600><c> I</c>

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ccip yeah uh that's a good question so I
 

00:21:39.679 --> 00:21:41.430 align:start position:0%
ccip yeah uh that's a good question so I
would<00:21:39.880><c> think</c><00:21:40.039><c> of</c><00:21:40.159><c> ccip</c><00:21:40.919><c> more</c><00:21:41.159><c> on</c><00:21:41.279><c> the</c>

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would think of ccip more on the
 

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would think of ccip more on the
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messaging side of things than on the
 

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messaging side of things than on the
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asset transfer side of things um and so
 

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asset transfer side of things um and so
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specifically like when you think about
 

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specifically like when you think about
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the the bridges that I was referring to
 

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the the bridges that I was referring to
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um that's kind of what currently exists
 

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um that's kind of what currently exists
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is is ccip one of the things that we're
 

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is is ccip one of the things that we're
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actually working on right now on the AG
 

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actually working on right now on the AG
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is trying to bring kind of bridge
 

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is trying to bring kind of bridge
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standards within the Ager there's
 

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standards within the Ager there's
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actually nothing that prevents the Ager
 

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actually nothing that prevents the Ager
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from using some of the bridge standards
 

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from using some of the bridge standards
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that we currently see um and adding to
 

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that we currently see um and adding to
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it a level of security that currently
 

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it a level of security that currently
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doesn't actually exist uh and so the
 

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doesn't actually exist uh and so the
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goal is actually to work with um
 

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goal is actually to work with um
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something like ccip rather than um
 

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something like ccip rather than um
compete<00:22:19.480><c> with</c>

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compete with
 

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compete with
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it all right where does Ager run and who
 

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it all right where does Ager run and who
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are the actors yeah that's a good
 

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are the actors yeah that's a good
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question so um the AG's going to be live
 

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question so um the AG's going to be live
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in 3 to 4 weeks and in its current in
 

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in 3 to 4 weeks and in its current in
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its its initial form it's run in a
 

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its its initial form it's run in a
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centralized way um the nice thing though
 

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centralized way um the nice thing though
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is that with ZK
 

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is that with ZK
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technology you can be running a
 

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technology you can be running a
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centralized system in a trustless manner
 

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centralized system in a trustless manner
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and that's kind of what the agir is
 

00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:51.230 align:start position:0%
and that's kind of what the agir is
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going to look like in its initial form
 

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going to look like in its initial form
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but I fundamentally believe that not
 

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but I fundamentally believe that not
withstanding<00:22:54.720><c> how</c><00:22:54.919><c> centralized</c><00:22:55.520><c> we're</c>

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withstanding how centralized we're
 

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withstanding how centralized we're
seeing<00:22:56.159><c> everything</c><00:22:56.480><c> in</c><00:22:56.559><c> the</c><00:22:56.720><c> space</c><00:22:57.039><c> right</c><00:22:57.200><c> now</c>

00:22:57.990 --> 00:22:58.000 align:start position:0%
seeing everything in the space right now
 

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seeing everything in the space right now
um<00:22:58.480><c> pretty</c><00:22:58.640><c> much</c><00:22:58.799><c> everything</c><00:22:59.039><c> is</c><00:22:59.200><c> going</c><00:22:59.360><c> to</c>

00:22:59.750 --> 00:22:59.760 align:start position:0%
um pretty much everything is going to
 

00:22:59.760 --> 00:23:02.190 align:start position:0%
um pretty much everything is going to
decentralize<00:23:00.760><c> and</c><00:23:01.320><c> this</c><00:23:01.440><c> is</c><00:23:01.600><c> either</c><00:23:01.840><c> going</c><00:23:01.960><c> to</c>

00:23:02.190 --> 00:23:02.200 align:start position:0%
decentralize and this is either going to
 

00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:05.230 align:start position:0%
decentralize and this is either going to
happen<00:23:02.720><c> because</c><00:23:03.400><c> it's</c><00:23:03.600><c> going</c><00:23:03.760><c> to</c><00:23:04.000><c> be</c><00:23:04.480><c> forced</c>

00:23:05.230 --> 00:23:05.240 align:start position:0%
happen because it's going to be forced
 

00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:08.710 align:start position:0%
happen because it's going to be forced
by<00:23:05.559><c> some</c><00:23:06.120><c> government</c><00:23:06.720><c> actors</c><00:23:07.200><c> in</c><00:23:07.400><c> some</c><00:23:07.679><c> way</c><00:23:08.480><c> um</c>

00:23:08.710 --> 00:23:08.720 align:start position:0%
by some government actors in some way um
 

00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:11.310 align:start position:0%
by some government actors in some way um
or<00:23:08.919><c> it's</c><00:23:09.120><c> going</c><00:23:09.279><c> to</c><00:23:09.520><c> happen</c><00:23:09.960><c> because</c><00:23:10.919><c> critical</c>

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or it's going to happen because critical
 

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or it's going to happen because critical
issues<00:23:11.559><c> are</c><00:23:11.720><c> going</c><00:23:11.840><c> to</c><00:23:12.000><c> happen</c><00:23:12.200><c> in</c>

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issues are going to happen in
 

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issues are going to happen in
centralized<00:23:12.840><c> systems</c><00:23:13.159><c> and</c><00:23:13.279><c> we're</c><00:23:13.400><c> all</c><00:23:13.520><c> going</c>

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centralized systems and we're all going
 

00:23:13.600 --> 00:23:15.029 align:start position:0%
centralized systems and we're all going
to<00:23:13.720><c> be</c><00:23:13.880><c> reminded</c><00:23:14.360><c> why</c><00:23:14.520><c> it</c><00:23:14.640><c> is</c><00:23:14.799><c> that</c><00:23:14.919><c> we</c>

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to be reminded why it is that we
 

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to be reminded why it is that we
actually<00:23:15.240><c> have</c><00:23:15.400><c> decentralized</c><00:23:16.159><c> systems</c><00:23:17.159><c> um</c>

00:23:17.470 --> 00:23:17.480 align:start position:0%
actually have decentralized systems um
 

00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:20.110 align:start position:0%
actually have decentralized systems um
and<00:23:17.640><c> so</c><00:23:18.120><c> our</c><00:23:18.400><c> goal</c><00:23:19.000><c> and</c><00:23:19.159><c> it's</c><00:23:19.279><c> on</c><00:23:19.400><c> the</c><00:23:19.520><c> road</c><00:23:19.760><c> map</c>

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and so our goal and it's on the road map
 

00:23:20.120 --> 00:23:21.149 align:start position:0%
and so our goal and it's on the road map
and<00:23:20.279><c> it's</c><00:23:20.480><c> actually</c><00:23:20.640><c> a</c><00:23:20.720><c> lot</c><00:23:20.799><c> of</c><00:23:20.919><c> work</c><00:23:21.039><c> is</c>

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and it's actually a lot of work is
 

00:23:21.159 --> 00:23:23.029 align:start position:0%
and it's actually a lot of work is
already<00:23:21.400><c> being</c><00:23:21.600><c> done</c><00:23:22.080><c> is</c><00:23:22.200><c> to</c><00:23:22.480><c> decentralize</c>

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already being done is to decentralize
 

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already being done is to decentralize
the<00:23:23.159><c> agal</c><00:23:23.600><c> and</c><00:23:23.760><c> not</c><00:23:23.960><c> keep</c><00:23:24.120><c> it</c><00:23:24.240><c> in</c><00:23:24.360><c> a</c>

00:23:24.510 --> 00:23:24.520 align:start position:0%
the agal and not keep it in a
 

00:23:24.520 --> 00:23:26.710 align:start position:0%
the agal and not keep it in a
centralized

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centralized
 

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centralized
form<00:23:27.720><c> all</c><00:23:28.000><c> right</c>

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form all right
 

00:23:29.159 --> 00:23:31.110 align:start position:0%
form all right
uh<00:23:29.440><c> is</c><00:23:29.559><c> there</c><00:23:29.840><c> any</c><00:23:30.080><c> hope</c><00:23:30.360><c> of</c><00:23:30.559><c> optimistic</c>

00:23:31.110 --> 00:23:31.120 align:start position:0%
uh is there any hope of optimistic
 

00:23:31.120 --> 00:23:33.669 align:start position:0%
uh is there any hope of optimistic
networks<00:23:31.600><c> to</c><00:23:31.760><c> get</c><00:23:31.960><c> aggregated</c><00:23:32.440><c> into</c><00:23:32.679><c> the</c><00:23:32.799><c> Ager</c>

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networks to get aggregated into the Ager
 

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networks to get aggregated into the Ager
their<00:23:33.919><c> optimistic</c><00:23:34.440><c> nature</c><00:23:34.880><c> that</c><00:23:35.000><c> is</c><00:23:35.240><c> waiting</c>

00:23:35.549 --> 00:23:35.559 align:start position:0%
their optimistic nature that is waiting
 

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their optimistic nature that is waiting
periods<00:23:35.960><c> Etc</c><00:23:36.480><c> seems</c><00:23:36.720><c> to</c><00:23:36.880><c> be</c><00:23:37.080><c> fundamentally</c>

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periods Etc seems to be fundamentally
 

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periods Etc seems to be fundamentally
incompatible<00:23:38.640><c> with</c><00:23:38.840><c> composability</c>

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incompatible with composability
 

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incompatible with composability
yes<00:23:40.919><c> uh</c><00:23:41.080><c> this</c><00:23:41.159><c> is</c><00:23:41.240><c> a</c><00:23:41.400><c> good</c><00:23:41.559><c> question</c><00:23:41.840><c> and</c>

00:23:41.950 --> 00:23:41.960 align:start position:0%
yes uh this is a good question and
 

00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:43.390 align:start position:0%
yes uh this is a good question and
something<00:23:42.200><c> we</c><00:23:42.360><c> spent</c><00:23:42.559><c> a</c><00:23:42.679><c> lot</c><00:23:42.799><c> of</c><00:23:42.880><c> time</c><00:23:43.080><c> about</c>

00:23:43.390 --> 00:23:43.400 align:start position:0%
something we spent a lot of time about
 

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something we spent a lot of time about
so<00:23:43.559><c> I</c><00:23:43.640><c> got</c><00:23:43.799><c> two</c><00:23:44.000><c> answers</c><00:23:44.279><c> for</c><00:23:44.480><c> you</c><00:23:44.640><c> on</c><00:23:44.840><c> that</c><00:23:45.600><c> um</c>

00:23:45.909 --> 00:23:45.919 align:start position:0%
so I got two answers for you on that um
 

00:23:45.919 --> 00:23:47.350 align:start position:0%
so I got two answers for you on that um
answer<00:23:46.159><c> number</c><00:23:46.360><c> one</c><00:23:46.559><c> is</c><00:23:46.720><c> all</c><00:23:46.919><c> optimistic</c>

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answer number one is all optimistic
 

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answer number one is all optimistic
Roll-Ups<00:23:47.720><c> will</c><00:23:47.840><c> be</c><00:23:47.919><c> ZK</c><00:23:48.279><c> rollups</c><00:23:48.960><c> it's</c><00:23:49.120><c> just</c><00:23:49.240><c> a</c>

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Roll-Ups will be ZK rollups it's just a
 

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Roll-Ups will be ZK rollups it's just a
matter<00:23:49.559><c> of</c><00:23:49.760><c> time</c><00:23:50.120><c> everybody</c><00:23:50.520><c> knows</c><00:23:50.760><c> it</c><00:23:51.480><c> um</c><00:23:51.880><c> all</c>

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matter of time everybody knows it um all
 

00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:53.750 align:start position:0%
matter of time everybody knows it um all
optimistic<00:23:52.720><c> rups</c><00:23:53.039><c> are</c><00:23:53.159><c> working</c><00:23:53.400><c> on</c><00:23:53.559><c> that</c>

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optimistic rups are working on that
 

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optimistic rups are working on that
already<00:23:54.159><c> it's</c><00:23:54.320><c> just</c><00:23:54.440><c> a</c><00:23:54.640><c> question</c><00:23:54.880><c> of</c><00:23:55.080><c> time</c><00:23:55.799><c> um</c>

00:23:56.029 --> 00:23:56.039 align:start position:0%
already it's just a question of time um
 

00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:58.909 align:start position:0%
already it's just a question of time um
and<00:23:56.200><c> that</c><00:23:56.320><c> frankly</c><00:23:56.720><c> is</c><00:23:56.960><c> what</c><00:23:57.440><c> will</c><00:23:57.880><c> create</c><00:23:58.240><c> the</c>

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and that frankly is what will create the
 

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and that frankly is what will create the
ideal<00:23:59.440><c> user</c>

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ideal user
 

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ideal user
experience<00:24:01.360><c> um</c><00:24:01.640><c> another</c><00:24:01.960><c> alternative</c><00:24:02.640><c> would</c>

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experience um another alternative would
 

00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:06.390 align:start position:0%
experience um another alternative would
be<00:24:03.240><c> to</c><00:24:03.520><c> actually</c><00:24:03.919><c> just</c><00:24:04.480><c> just</c><00:24:04.880><c> uh</c><00:24:05.520><c> uh</c><00:24:05.720><c> prove</c><00:24:06.240><c> the</c>

00:24:06.390 --> 00:24:06.400 align:start position:0%
be to actually just just uh uh prove the
 

00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:08.510 align:start position:0%
be to actually just just uh uh prove the
fraud<00:24:06.760><c> proof</c><00:24:07.480><c> okay</c><00:24:07.679><c> that's</c><00:24:08.080><c> the</c><00:24:08.240><c> exact</c>

00:24:08.510 --> 00:24:08.520 align:start position:0%
fraud proof okay that's the exact
 

00:24:08.520 --> 00:24:09.789 align:start position:0%
fraud proof okay that's the exact
question<00:24:08.799><c> like</c><00:24:08.919><c> you</c><00:24:09.039><c> can't</c><00:24:09.240><c> wait</c><00:24:09.400><c> seven</c><00:24:09.640><c> days</c>

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question like you can't wait seven days
 

00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:11.710 align:start position:0%
question like you can't wait seven days
to<00:24:09.880><c> go</c><00:24:10.039><c> across</c><00:24:10.320><c> train</c><00:24:10.559><c> that's</c><00:24:10.720><c> horrible</c><00:24:11.520><c> um</c>

00:24:11.710 --> 00:24:11.720 align:start position:0%
to go across train that's horrible um
 

00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:13.710 align:start position:0%
to go across train that's horrible um
but<00:24:11.880><c> what</c><00:24:11.960><c> I</c><00:24:12.080><c> was</c><00:24:12.240><c> also</c><00:24:12.480><c> saying</c><00:24:12.840><c> is</c><00:24:13.080><c> that</c><00:24:13.480><c> we</c>

00:24:13.710 --> 00:24:13.720 align:start position:0%
but what I was also saying is that we
 

00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:16.269 align:start position:0%
but what I was also saying is that we
don't<00:24:14.000><c> just</c><00:24:14.200><c> need</c><00:24:14.520><c> to</c><00:24:15.039><c> prove</c><00:24:15.480><c> proofs</c><00:24:16.000><c> we</c><00:24:16.080><c> can</c>

00:24:16.269 --> 00:24:16.279 align:start position:0%
don't just need to prove proofs we can
 

00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:19.430 align:start position:0%
don't just need to prove proofs we can
prove<00:24:16.559><c> other</c><00:24:16.799><c> things</c><00:24:17.600><c> for</c><00:24:17.919><c> example</c><00:24:18.919><c> um</c><00:24:19.320><c> you</c>

00:24:19.430 --> 00:24:19.440 align:start position:0%
prove other things for example um you
 

00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:21.830 align:start position:0%
prove other things for example um you
know<00:24:19.799><c> the</c><00:24:20.240><c> the</c><00:24:20.400><c> centralized</c><00:24:20.960><c> sequencers</c><00:24:21.720><c> that</c>

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know the the centralized sequencers that
 

00:24:21.840 --> 00:24:24.950 align:start position:0%
know the the centralized sequencers that
we<00:24:21.960><c> have</c><00:24:22.240><c> right</c><00:24:22.480><c> now</c><00:24:22.760><c> do</c><00:24:23.080><c> reach</c><00:24:23.720><c> consensus</c><00:24:24.720><c> uh</c>

00:24:24.950 --> 00:24:24.960 align:start position:0%
we have right now do reach consensus uh
 

00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:27.430 align:start position:0%
we have right now do reach consensus uh
in<00:24:25.200><c> in</c><00:24:25.320><c> a</c><00:24:25.520><c> centralized</c><00:24:26.200><c> way</c><00:24:26.840><c> and</c><00:24:27.039><c> you</c><00:24:27.200><c> can</c>

00:24:27.430 --> 00:24:27.440 align:start position:0%
in in a centralized way and you can
 

00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.909 align:start position:0%
in in a centralized way and you can
actually<00:24:27.919><c> prove</c><00:24:28.240><c> that</c><00:24:28.520><c> consensus</c><00:24:29.520><c> using</c><00:24:30.159><c> the</c>

00:24:30.909 --> 00:24:30.919 align:start position:0%
actually prove that consensus using the
 

00:24:30.919 --> 00:24:32.870 align:start position:0%
actually prove that consensus using the
uh<00:24:31.080><c> pessimistic</c><00:24:31.640><c> proof</c><00:24:32.399><c> that's</c><00:24:32.559><c> why</c><00:24:32.679><c> I</c><00:24:32.760><c> was</c>

00:24:32.870 --> 00:24:32.880 align:start position:0%
uh pessimistic proof that's why I was
 

00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:35.310 align:start position:0%
uh pessimistic proof that's why I was
saying<00:24:33.200><c> that</c><00:24:33.399><c> even</c><00:24:34.039><c> in</c><00:24:34.200><c> this</c><00:24:34.360><c> current</c><00:24:34.760><c> state</c>

00:24:35.310 --> 00:24:35.320 align:start position:0%
saying that even in this current state
 

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saying that even in this current state
where<00:24:35.480><c> you've</c><00:24:35.679><c> got</c><00:24:35.840><c> fraud</c><00:24:36.159><c> proofs</c><00:24:36.720><c> on</c><00:24:36.960><c> chains</c>

00:24:37.870 --> 00:24:37.880 align:start position:0%
where you've got fraud proofs on chains
 

00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:40.789 align:start position:0%
where you've got fraud proofs on chains
that<00:24:38.000><c> we</c><00:24:38.159><c> will</c><00:24:38.399><c> still</c><00:24:38.840><c> see</c><00:24:39.159><c> them</c><00:24:39.559><c> on</c><00:24:39.679><c> the</c><00:24:39.840><c> agay</c>

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that we will still see them on the agay
 

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that we will still see them on the agay
because<00:24:41.080><c> we</c><00:24:41.200><c> can</c><00:24:41.440><c> protect</c><00:24:42.159><c> against</c><00:24:43.159><c> the</c><00:24:43.559><c> the</c>

00:24:43.870 --> 00:24:43.880 align:start position:0%
because we can protect against the the
 

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because we can protect against the the
the<00:24:44.720><c> risk</c><00:24:45.600><c> of</c><00:24:46.039><c> any</c><00:24:47.000><c> um</c><00:24:47.440><c> of</c><00:24:47.600><c> anything</c><00:24:47.919><c> happening</c>

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the risk of any um of anything happening
 

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the risk of any um of anything happening
within<00:24:48.440><c> the</c><00:24:48.520><c> fraud</c><00:24:48.840><c> proof</c><00:24:49.080><c> window</c><00:24:49.679><c> using</c><00:24:49.960><c> the</c>

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within the fraud proof window using the
 

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within the fraud proof window using the
pessimistic<00:24:50.600><c> proof</c><00:24:51.600><c> all</c><00:24:51.799><c> right</c><00:24:52.360><c> we</c><00:24:52.480><c> only</c><00:24:52.679><c> have</c>

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pessimistic proof all right we only have
 

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pessimistic proof all right we only have
time<00:24:53.039><c> for</c><00:24:53.240><c> one</c><00:24:53.399><c> more</c><00:24:53.679><c> question</c><00:24:54.159><c> is</c><00:24:54.320><c> my</c>

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time for one more question is my
 

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time for one more question is my
understanding<00:24:55.159><c> correct</c><00:24:55.679><c> that</c><00:24:55.880><c> existing</c><00:24:56.200><c> l2s</c>

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understanding correct that existing l2s
 

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understanding correct that existing l2s
need<00:24:56.880><c> to</c><00:24:57.080><c> migrate</c><00:24:57.520><c> over</c><00:24:57.840><c> all</c><00:24:58.039><c> their</c><00:24:58.440><c> AET</c>

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need to migrate over all their AET
 

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need to migrate over all their AET
strings<00:24:59.360><c> in</c><00:24:59.480><c> the</c><00:24:59.640><c> native</c><00:25:00.039><c> Bridges</c><00:25:00.360><c> to</c><00:25:00.520><c> the</c>

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strings in the native Bridges to the
 

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strings in the native Bridges to the
unified<00:25:01.159><c> Bridge</c><00:25:02.120><c> yeah</c><00:25:02.399><c> that</c><00:25:02.520><c> is</c><00:25:02.640><c> a</c><00:25:02.880><c> very</c><00:25:03.080><c> good</c>

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unified Bridge yeah that is a very good
 

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unified Bridge yeah that is a very good
question<00:25:04.120><c> um</c><00:25:04.279><c> it's</c><00:25:04.399><c> something</c><00:25:04.600><c> we</c><00:25:04.720><c> spend</c><00:25:04.919><c> a</c>

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question um it's something we spend a
 

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question um it's something we spend a
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lot of time on so I would say there's um
 

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lot of time on so I would say there's um
there's<00:25:08.320><c> the</c><00:25:08.480><c> ideal</c><00:25:08.880><c> State</c><00:25:09.200><c> and</c><00:25:09.279><c> there's</c><00:25:09.440><c> the</c>

00:25:09.590 --> 00:25:09.600 align:start position:0%
there's the ideal State and there's the
 

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there's the ideal State and there's the
less<00:25:09.840><c> the</c><00:25:09.960><c> ideal</c><00:25:10.320><c> State</c><00:25:10.880><c> as</c><00:25:11.039><c> I've</c><00:25:11.200><c> mentioned</c><00:25:11.559><c> a</c>

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less the ideal State as I've mentioned a
 

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less the ideal State as I've mentioned a
few<00:25:11.840><c> times</c><00:25:12.480><c> we</c><00:25:12.600><c> can</c><00:25:13.000><c> currently</c><00:25:13.440><c> connect</c><00:25:14.039><c> any</c>

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few times we can currently connect any
 

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few times we can currently connect any
existing<00:25:14.679><c> chain</c><00:25:14.919><c> and</c><00:25:15.039><c> you</c><00:25:15.120><c> will</c><00:25:15.240><c> see</c><00:25:15.520><c> existing</c>

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existing chain and you will see existing
 

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existing chain and you will see existing
chains<00:25:16.520><c> get</c><00:25:16.679><c> connected</c><00:25:17.159><c> without</c><00:25:17.480><c> migrating</c>

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chains get connected without migrating
 

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chains get connected without migrating
assets<00:25:18.679><c> over</c><00:25:19.039><c> to</c><00:25:19.360><c> the</c><00:25:19.520><c> Ager</c><00:25:20.480><c> um</c><00:25:20.640><c> and</c><00:25:20.760><c> what</c><00:25:20.840><c> will</c>

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assets over to the Ager um and what will
 

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assets over to the Ager um and what will
happen<00:25:21.279><c> when</c><00:25:21.440><c> that</c><00:25:21.600><c> happens</c><00:25:21.960><c> is</c><00:25:22.399><c> basically</c>

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happen when that happens is basically
 

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happen when that happens is basically
you'll<00:25:23.240><c> start</c><00:25:23.559><c> issuing</c><00:25:24.039><c> new</c><00:25:24.360><c> assets</c><00:25:24.960><c> on</c><00:25:25.279><c> that</c>

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you'll start issuing new assets on that
 

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you'll start issuing new assets on that
canonical<00:25:26.360><c> that</c><00:25:26.480><c> new</c><00:25:26.679><c> canonical</c><00:25:27.159><c> Bridge</c>

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canonical that new canonical Bridge
 

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canonical that new canonical Bridge
being<00:25:27.640><c> the</c><00:25:27.760><c> AG</c><00:25:28.159><c> brid</c><00:25:28.320><c> bridge</c><00:25:29.320><c> for</c><00:25:29.520><c> any</c><00:25:29.679><c> chains</c>

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being the AG brid bridge for any chains
 

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being the AG brid bridge for any chains
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that want the what I'll call Ideal user
 

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that want the what I'll call Ideal user
experience<00:25:33.200><c> you</c><00:25:33.320><c> would</c><00:25:33.559><c> actually</c><00:25:33.799><c> want</c><00:25:34.000><c> to</c>

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experience you would actually want to
 

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experience you would actually want to
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have them migrate all the assets over
 

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have them migrate all the assets over
this<00:25:36.760><c> is</c><00:25:37.200><c> actually</c><00:25:37.679><c> something</c><00:25:38.240><c> that</c><00:25:38.679><c> um</c><00:25:38.919><c> you</c>

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this is actually something that um you
 

00:25:39.080 --> 00:25:42.630 align:start position:0%
this is actually something that um you
will<00:25:39.320><c> see</c><00:25:39.799><c> happening</c><00:25:40.399><c> with</c><00:25:40.679><c> polygon</c><00:25:41.240><c> POS</c><00:25:42.240><c> um</c>

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will see happening with polygon POS um
 

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will see happening with polygon POS um
we<00:25:42.880><c> have</c>

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we have
 

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we have
6,500<00:25:45.960><c> or</c><00:25:46.120><c> so</c><00:25:46.440><c> assets</c><00:25:46.760><c> on</c><00:25:46.960><c> polygon</c><00:25:47.399><c> POS</c><00:25:48.399><c> they</c>

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6,500 or so assets on polygon POS they
 

00:25:48.520 --> 00:25:50.789 align:start position:0%
6,500 or so assets on polygon POS they
will<00:25:48.799><c> all</c><00:25:49.039><c> get</c><00:25:49.279><c> migrated</c><00:25:49.919><c> over</c><00:25:50.240><c> to</c><00:25:50.640><c> the</c>

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will all get migrated over to the
 

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will all get migrated over to the
unified<00:25:51.279><c> bridge</c><00:25:51.960><c> and</c><00:25:52.120><c> there</c><00:25:52.720><c> we're</c><00:25:52.880><c> going</c><00:25:53.000><c> to</c>

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unified bridge and there we're going to
 

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unified bridge and there we're going to
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be the first example of probably one of
 

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be the first example of probably one of
the<00:25:56.399><c> biggest</c><00:25:56.679><c> chains</c><00:25:57.440><c> definitely</c><00:25:57.720><c> the</c>

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the biggest chains definitely the
 

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the biggest chains definitely the
biggest<00:25:58.000><c> chains</c><00:25:58.360><c> the</c><00:25:58.480><c> world</c><00:25:58.760><c> from</c><00:25:58.880><c> an</c><00:25:59.039><c> assets</c>

00:25:59.389 --> 00:25:59.399 align:start position:0%
biggest chains the world from an assets
 

00:25:59.399 --> 00:26:01.230 align:start position:0%
biggest chains the world from an assets
perspective<00:26:00.080><c> actually</c><00:26:00.399><c> migrating</c><00:26:00.919><c> all</c><00:26:01.039><c> of</c>

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perspective actually migrating all of
 

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perspective actually migrating all of
those<00:26:01.480><c> assets</c>

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those assets
 

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those assets
over<00:26:03.360><c> all</c><00:26:03.559><c> right</c><00:26:03.880><c> thank</c><00:26:04.039><c> you</c><00:26:04.240><c> again</c><00:26:04.480><c> so</c><00:26:04.640><c> much</c>

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over all right thank you again so much
 

00:26:04.919 --> 00:26:06.870 align:start position:0%
over all right thank you again so much
can<00:26:05.039><c> we</c><00:26:05.159><c> get</c><00:26:05.279><c> a</c><00:26:05.440><c> round</c><00:26:05.640><c> of</c><00:26:05.840><c> applause</c><00:26:06.279><c> for</c><00:26:06.440><c> Mark</c>

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can we get a round of applause for Mark
 

00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:09.880 align:start position:0%
can we get a round of applause for Mark
please

