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everybody my name is m i was previously
 

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everybody my name is m i was previously
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one of the co-founders of wallard now I
 

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one of the co-founders of wallard now I
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do security R&amp;D at metamask today we're
 

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do security R&amp;D at metamask today we're
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going to talk about the evolution of
 

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going to talk about the evolution of
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scams uh throughout the crypto space
 

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scams uh throughout the crypto space
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specifically pertaining to end
 

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specifically pertaining to end
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users so let's start with some of the OG
 

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users so let's start with some of the OG
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scams in web
 

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scams in web
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3 first off we have our enter your seed
 

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3 first off we have our enter your seed
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phase here scams your typical seed pH
 

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phase here scams your typical seed pH
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Steelers when you end up on a fishing
 

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Steelers when you end up on a fishing
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website you also have those send your
 

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website you also have those send your
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money here and we'll double it I'm sure
 

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money here and we'll double it I'm sure
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everybody has seen this across Twitter
 

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everybody has seen this across Twitter
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or some of these other platforms and
 

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or some of these other platforms and
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then you also have some of these other
 

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then you also have some of these other
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types of scam methodologies where people
 

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types of scam methodologies where people
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reply to tweets and uh link this way to
 

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reply to tweets and uh link this way to
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uh earn yield um by using this Arbitrage
 

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uh earn yield um by using this Arbitrage
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bot now talking about some of the more
 

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bot now talking about some of the more
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interesting scams in the space that
 

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we've seen over the last couple of years
 

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we've seen over the last couple of years
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are drainer kits
 

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a lot of drainer kits actually started
 

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a lot of drainer kits actually started
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um around May of 2022 uh with monkey
 

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um around May of 2022 uh with monkey
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drainer being one of the first uh
 

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drainer being one of the first uh
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drainer kits that kind of originated now
 

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drainer kits that kind of originated now
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what's really interesting about monkey
 

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what's really interesting about monkey
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drainer and uh the origins of drainer
 

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drainer and uh the origins of drainer
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kits is that it kind of replicates a
 

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kits is that it kind of replicates a
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the traditional cyber security space for
 

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the traditional cyber security space for
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like Mau as a service but now
 

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introducing it in a different aspect as
 

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introducing it in a different aspect as
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drainers as a service so how this
 

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actually works often times by approval
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farming so when the early days of monkey
 

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farming so when the early days of monkey
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drainer came about they kind of uh were
 

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very targeted towards the nft space so
 

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very targeted towards the nft space so
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what they did was they leveraged your
 

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what they did was they leveraged your
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open approvals that you already had on
 

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open approvals that you already had on
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assets uh you've listed in the past on
 

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assets uh you've listed in the past on
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openc or other platforms and they
 

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essentially leveraged those approvals to
 

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essentially create a zero e listing to
 

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themselves effectively draining you of
 

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themselves effectively draining you of
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assets now throughout his notoriety he
 

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operations and from then you had the
 

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operations and from then you had the
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rise of Inferno drainer and Angel
 

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rise of Inferno drainer and Angel
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drainer which are some of the other more
 

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drainer which are some of the other more
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drainer has stolen roughly around 80
 

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drainer has stolen roughly around 80
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million in assets employing a lot of the
 

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million in assets employing a lot of the
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similar tactics that monkey drainer had
 

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similar tactics that monkey drainer had
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used in the past but also leveraging
 

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used in the past but also leveraging
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newer techniques by using things like uh
 

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newer techniques by using things like uh
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potentially over engineering of certain
 

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potentially over engineering of certain
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protocols like Unis swap for example has
 

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protocols like Unis swap for example has
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a uh functionality where you can
 

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a uh functionality where you can
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actually swap to another wallet address
 

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actually swap to another wallet address
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um and the intention behind this feature
 

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um and the intention behind this feature
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was so that you could swap directly into
 

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was so that you could swap directly into
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a cold wallet but now from an attacker's
 

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a cold wallet but now from an attacker's
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perspective you can swap directly into
 

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perspective you can swap directly into
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their wallet so by leveraging things
 

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their wallet so by leveraging things
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like this you can see um what the pop-up
 

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like this you can see um what the pop-up
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might look like on wallet guard um this
 

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might look like on wallet guard um this
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was an actual uh transaction that was
 

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was an actual uh transaction that was
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blocked and the idea was just swapping
 

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blocked and the idea was just swapping
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directly into the um attacker's wallet
 

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directly into the um attacker's wallet
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Now angel drainer is another really
 

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Now angel drainer is another really
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prevalent kit um now what they really
 

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prevalent kit um now what they really
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employ that's a little bit different
 

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employ that's a little bit different
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about them is their multi M chain
 

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about them is their multi M chain
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draining strategy as of recently through
 

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draining strategy as of recently through
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efforts of metamask and the security
 

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efforts of metamask and the security
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Alliance uh Inferno drainer has uh kind
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of shut down and starting to work with
 

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of shut down and starting to work with
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Angel drainer um so there have been a
 

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Angel drainer um so there have been a
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lot of changes and Evolutions in the
 

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draining industry as a whole um but it's
 

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draining industry as a whole um but it's
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a constantly evolving field and that's
 

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a constantly evolving field and that's
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constantly affecting end users given the
 

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constantly affecting end users given the
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um idea that a lot of people sign
 

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um idea that a lot of people sign
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transactions without really thinking
 

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transactions without really thinking
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about them and what we're really trying
 

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about them and what we're really trying
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to do nowadays um through transaction
 

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to do nowadays um through transaction
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simulation that a lot ofall use um is
 

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simulation that a lot ofall use um is
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trying to portray to end users what
 

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trying to portray to end users what
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exactly happens when you are actually
 

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exactly happens when you are actually
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committing a transaction on
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chain now Pig butchering and dating
 

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chain now Pig butchering and dating
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scams are also a massive massive massive
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plague on the industry you see you know
 

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plague on the industry you see you know
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hits from like $55,000 to like hundreds
 

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of thousands of dollars so these are
 

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of thousands of dollars so these are
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very targeted attacks they typically
 

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very targeted attacks they typically
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start on dating sites like Tinder or
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whatever else and the idea is it can be
 

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whatever else and the idea is it can be
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as simple as a hey message and then lead
 

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as simple as a hey message and then lead
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to somebody um asking to invest on some
 

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to somebody um asking to invest on some
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investment platform um often times it
 

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investment platform um often times it
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acts kind of like a Ponzi scheme in the
 

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acts kind of like a Ponzi scheme in the
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beginning where you uh put money on
 

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beginning where you uh put money on
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there you start earning and then you
 

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there you start earning and then you
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trust it and you start investing even
 

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trust it and you start investing even
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more money um often times they that's
 

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more money um often times they that's
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why they call it Pig butchering because
 

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why they call it Pig butchering because
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they fatten it up before they actually
 

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they fatten it up before they actually
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take the big hit and take every every
 

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take the big hit and take every every
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asset you have there now this is also
 

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asset you have there now this is also
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the um out of all the scam methodologies
 

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the um out of all the scam methodologies
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this has the highest um amount of return
 

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this has the highest um amount of return
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for the attacker per
 

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hit now security is an Ever evolving cat
 

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hit now security is an Ever evolving cat
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and mouse game um but be assured that
 

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and mouse game um but be assured that
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there are you know companies like
 

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there are you know companies like
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metamask security Alliance blockade and
 

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metamask security Alliance blockade and
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many other security vendors that exist
 

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many other security vendors that exist
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out there that are constantly working on
 

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out there that are constantly working on
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mitigating these threats and that's all
 

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mitigating these threats and that's all
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I have for you today but um happy to
 

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I have for you today but um happy to
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please raise your hand we're getting
 

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please raise your hand we're getting
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more crowded oh there U do you want to
 

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more crowded oh there U do you want to
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give it a try I don't think I can make
 

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give it a try I don't think I can make
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embarrassing uh so question about the
 

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embarrassing uh so question about the
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future of uh all those sophisticated
 

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techniques and drainers basically um we
 

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discuss the current uh state of them
 

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discuss the current uh state of them
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from your experience and just looking at
 

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from your experience and just looking at
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you know all the different smart
 

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contracts um that are malicious what is
 

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contracts um that are malicious what is
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the future of that like operation um
 

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the future of that like operation um
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that malicious Hors are performing where
 

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is it all going right now yeah it's an
 

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is it all going right now yeah it's an
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interesting one because it's an Ever
 

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evolving field like metamask has
 

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evolving field like metamask has
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released some features as of recently to
 

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do a lot more on
 

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the uh client side detection feature uh
 

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the uh client side detection feature uh
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fature sets and it's actually mitigated
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attackers very much so to the point
 

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attackers very much so to the point
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into Angel drainer um and other drainers
 

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into Angel drainer um and other drainers
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have completely shut down and we've made
 

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have completely shut down and we've made
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the barrier to entry for draining
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significantly harder than it's ever been
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piece of infrastructure they're going to
 

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migrate to another piece of
 

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migrate to another piece of
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infrastructure um you know typically
 

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infrastructure um you know typically
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right now we see a lot of infrastructure
 

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right now we see a lot of infrastructure
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being leveraged like Cloud flare um so
 

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being leveraged like Cloud flare um so
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some of the bottlenecks that exist in
 

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some of the bottlenecks that exist in
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the industry for example is you know
 

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the industry for example is you know
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people like Cloud flare who aren't
 

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people like Cloud flare who aren't
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taking as active measures to mitigate
 

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these threats um so it it constantly
 

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these threats um so it it constantly
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evolves though so like if Cloud Flair
 

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evolves though so like if Cloud Flair
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were to do something they're going to
 

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were to do something they're going to
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migrate to something else and uh that's
 

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migrate to something else and uh that's
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game uh there's a question at the F row
 

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game uh there's a question at the F row
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lady oh this one at the back first okay
 

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lady oh this one at the back first okay
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please um so I have a question what are
 

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please um so I have a question what are
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the techniques to for detection for
 

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the techniques to for detection for
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these malicious transactions for example
 

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these malicious transactions for example
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what differentiates a malicious approval
 

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what differentiates a malicious approval
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from a non-malicious one yeah so that's
 

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from a non-malicious one yeah so that's
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a good question um so in the case of
 

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a good question um so in the case of
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like Inferno drainer or monkey drainer
 

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like Inferno drainer or monkey drainer
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or some of these past draining kits it's
 

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or some of these past draining kits it's
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leveraging legitimate approvals so like
 

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leveraging legitimate approvals so like
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if you leave an open approval um on your
 

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if you leave an open approval um on your
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let's say you have you were on Unis Swap
 

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let's say you have you were on Unis Swap
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and you left an approval open for your
 

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and you left an approval open for your
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uh for an asset you're going to swap um
 

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uh for an asset you're going to swap um
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and you never revoke that approval
 

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and you never revoke that approval
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afterwards um that approval could be
 

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afterwards um that approval could be
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leveraged to steal your assets in the
 

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leveraged to steal your assets in the
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future so this is why like having good
 

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future so this is why like having good
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hygiene on your wallets by like revoking
 

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hygiene on your wallets by like revoking
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things that you don't need um is like a
 

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things that you don't need um is like a
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really important tactic um so like back
 

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really important tactic um so like back
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at wallgard we released a product called
 

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at wallgard we released a product called
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like uh our security dashboard and it
 

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like uh our security dashboard and it
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would run a whole scan of your wallet to
 

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would run a whole scan of your wallet to
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check like all the different assets you
 

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check like all the different assets you
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might have and the open approvals you
 

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might have and the open approvals you
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have so the idea was that lingering
 

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have so the idea was that lingering
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approvals are not a good thing and if
 

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approvals are not a good thing and if
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you're not using that approval you
 

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you're not using that approval you
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um I think the microphone is not working
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oh yeah okay there it goes um my
 

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oh yeah okay there it goes um my
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question is essentially it might be a
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little bit more philosophical but uh I
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feel like there's a lot of creativity
 

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feel like there's a lot of creativity
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applied on the other side with black
 

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applied on the other side with black
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hats how do you feel we can be more
 

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hats how do you feel we can be more
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creative from our side in terms of
 

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creative from our side in terms of
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protecting our assets and being
 

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protecting our assets and being
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proactive about preventing um hacks you
 

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proactive about preventing um hacks you
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know I think a lot of those
 

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know I think a lot of those
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responsibilities um security is actually
 

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responsibilities um security is actually
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falling on the wallets themselves um
 

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falling on the wallets themselves um
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more and more like one of the reasons
 

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more and more like one of the reasons
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that we were so Keen to do the
 

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that we were so Keen to do the
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acquisition with metamask was because I
 

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acquisition with metamask was because I
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truly fundamentally believe that
 

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truly fundamentally believe that
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security should be built at the wallet
 

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security should be built at the wallet
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level um and it allows like by having
 

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level um and it allows like by having
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security built at a wallet level you get
 

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security built at a wallet level you get
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to impact transactions at a different
 

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to impact transactions at a different
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level um back in the days when we were
 

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level um back in the days when we were
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um operating as wallet guard we were
 

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um operating as wallet guard we were
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essentially a browser extension that
 

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essentially a browser extension that
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would be kind of a companion to your
 

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would be kind of a companion to your
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wallet and as good as it was it wasn't
 

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wallet and as good as it was it wasn't
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the level of the stack we wanted to be
 

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the level of the stack we wanted to be
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at and I think that's why like security
 

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at and I think that's why like security
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really should be built at the wallet
 

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really should be built at the wallet
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level um where the transactions actually
 

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level um where the transactions actually
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being controlled um so taking control of
 

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being controlled um so taking control of
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that transaction life cycle is the most
 

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that transaction life cycle is the most
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important thing we can do as um on The
 

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important thing we can do as um on The
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Blue Team side thank you thank you so
 

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Blue Team side thank you thank you so
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much gim let's give it up to Gim sorry
 

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much gim let's give it up to Gim sorry
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