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so these three efforts were called eath
 

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so these three efforts were called eath
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prize each security and the community of
 

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prize each security and the community of
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communities and while we have this big
 

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communities and while we have this big
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messy governance stuff around aetherium
 

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messy governance stuff around aetherium
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there's a lot of these cross eco system
 

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there's a lot of these cross eco system
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things that have just sort of sprung up
 

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things that have just sort of sprung up
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not really any governance and all
 

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not really any governance and all
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volunteer base to kind of solve problems
 

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volunteer base to kind of solve problems
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and very much echoing what these guys
 

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and very much echoing what these guys
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are saying it's not about you know you
 

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are saying it's not about you know you
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should do it it's just people going and
 

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should do it it's just people going and
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doing it and that's why I find these
 

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doing it and that's why I find these
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things inspiring so the first one East
 

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things inspiring so the first one East
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prize what is it so I was talking to a
 

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prize what is it so I was talking to a
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bunch of my developer friends from
 

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bunch of my developer friends from
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different projects and it seems
 

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different projects and it seems
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everybody was duplicating efforts so in
 

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everybody was duplicating efforts so in
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talking with augur and Zeppelin and a
 

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talking with augur and Zeppelin and a
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lot of other daps you know everybody's
 

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lot of other daps you know everybody's
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rolling their own testing tools rolling
 

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rolling their own testing tools rolling
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their own deployment tools having
 

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their own deployment tools having
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trouble and not really sharing their
 

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trouble and not really sharing their
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efforts so a group of volunteers about
 

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efforts so a group of volunteers about
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ten people got together and just started
 

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ten people got together and just started
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interviewing developers around what type
 

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interviewing developers around what type
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of tools they're using and what problems
 

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of tools they're using and what problems
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they're having building on aetherium
 

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they're having building on aetherium
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this is like really cool
 

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this is like really cool
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so just pen random people just start
 

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so just pen random people just start
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interviewing teams out of the good of
 

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interviewing teams out of the good of
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their heart documenting this and making
 

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their heart documenting this and making
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it available in an open-source manner
 

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it available in an open-source manner
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this ended up this project ended up
 

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this ended up this project ended up
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interviewing 100 developers putting the
 

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interviewing 100 developers putting the
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interviews and github repo building a
 

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interviews and github repo building a
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website around this and marketing it so
 

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website around this and marketing it so
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that new developers and the space could
 

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that new developers and the space could
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figure out what they should be using the
 

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figure out what they should be using the
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build and it gets even crazier as a
 

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build and it gets even crazier as a
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result of that the etherium foundation
 

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result of that the etherium foundation
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and a whole bunch of others like web 3-0
 

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and a whole bunch of others like web 3-0
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excel for coinbase funded the effort and
 

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so the effort became called eath price
 

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so the effort became called eath price
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as this was a new way to fund bounties
 

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as this was a new way to fund bounties
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and we called maktab bounties and as a
 

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and we called maktab bounties and as a
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result two bounties were actually funded
 

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result two bounties were actually funded
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this year one for an open-source block
 

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this year one for an open-source block
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Explorer and one for eath etherion
 

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Explorer and one for eath etherion
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package manager now what's cool about
 

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package manager now what's cool about
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this is it's not like somebody said hey
 

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this is it's not like somebody said hey
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I want to build this it was like the
 

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I want to build this it was like the
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best developers in the space or saying
 

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best developers in the space or saying
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we need this and so we listened to these
 

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we need this and so we listened to these
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people these actually got funded and
 

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people these actually got funded and
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they've been delivered so POA bucks
 

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they've been delivered so POA bucks
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gathers an open-source block Explorer
 

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gathers an open-source block Explorer
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that's existing and can be used and each
 

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that's existing and can be used and each
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PM was actually launched this weekend so
 

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PM was actually launched this weekend so
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if you talk about like people just
 

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if you talk about like people just
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getting done 100 interviews tools
 

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getting done 100 interviews tools
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required funding tools built I think
 

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required funding tools built I think
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this is like a really really strong
 

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this is like a really really strong
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model and Heath Price has funded a bunch
 

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model and Heath Price has funded a bunch
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of new work mostly around infrastructure
 

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of new work mostly around infrastructure
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stuff so if you look at like the
 

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stuff so if you look at like the
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universal logins project from Alex Van
 

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universal logins project from Alex Van
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Dusen it got funding from Heath price so
 

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this is cool because these things have
 

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this is cool because these things have
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no business models and
 

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what people asked him for and actually
 

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what people asked him for and actually
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need so this scene this happened going
 

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need so this scene this happened going
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from an idea and talking to a bunch of
 

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from an idea and talking to a bunch of
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people it's like that's really awesome
 

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people it's like that's really awesome
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so how did it happen right so if you're
 

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so how did it happen right so if you're
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thinking like I'm sitting here how can I
 

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thinking like I'm sitting here how can I
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get involved in the community you know
 

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get involved in the community you know
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what can I do well early curation is
 

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what can I do well early curation is
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everything so and listening to community
 

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everything so and listening to community
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interviews were key so going and finding
 

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credible people and asking them what
 

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credible people and asking them what
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their problems are and having a strong
 

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mission of making everything transparent
 

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so here the mission was like can we
 

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build better tools on aetherium can we
 

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actually help the developers and like
 

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really mean that from the core and
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the notes transparent so this stuff was
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just available in github for anyone to
 

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just available in github for anyone to
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see and so what this just shows you in
 

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see and so what this just shows you in
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this case is with a little bit of
 

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this case is with a little bit of
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coordination you know there was no
 

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coordination you know there was no
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weekly meetings or organization or
 

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weekly meetings or organization or
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anything it's just a group of people
 

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anything it's just a group of people
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an opportunity for literally a huge
 

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an opportunity for literally a huge
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impact this can be done with almost no
 

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technical skill anybody in this room can
 

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technical skill anybody in this room can
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accomplish something like this with a
 

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little bit of work so two other stories
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one is each security this started I was
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working for a project called true--but
 

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and I went to get our smart contracts
 

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and I went to get our smart contracts
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audited and it was really frustrating so
 

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audited and it was really frustrating so
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I don't know if anyone's tried this
 

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I don't know if anyone's tried this
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before but you know getting quotes for
 

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before but you know getting quotes for
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$70,000 starter smart contracts insane
 

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$70,000 starter smart contracts insane
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totally insane but like just annoying
 

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totally insane but like just annoying
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and then even on top of that you know
 

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and then even on top of that you know
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you might have to wait for three months
 

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you might have to wait for three months
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you don't even know what you're getting
 

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you don't even know what you're getting
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so like are these auditors standing
 

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so like are these auditors standing
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behind this are they any good do you
 

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behind this are they any good do you
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know it was like it's a really really
 

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know it was like it's a really really
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really big problem there's not many
 

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really big problem there's not many
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companies that can afford or only like
 

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companies that can afford or only like
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the pull of a few that can afford this
 

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the pull of a few that can afford this
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so I started talking to a whole bunch of
 

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so I started talking to a whole bunch of
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security owners during this process
 

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security owners during this process
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found a bunch of people who like believe
 

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found a bunch of people who like believe
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in this mission put together a telegram
 

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in this mission put together a telegram
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group and invited all the best security
 

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group and invited all the best security
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companies to join it with the goal of
 

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creating like a single source of truth
 

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creating like a single source of truth
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so what happened as a result of this
 

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so what happened as a result of this
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right so this telegram group ended up
 

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right so this telegram group ended up
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getting like bounty hunters hackers
 

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getting like bounty hunters hackers
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InfoSec and OPSEC experts DAP builders
 

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all the big security players consensus
 

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all the big security players consensus
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zeppelin solidified and it became like a
 

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zeppelin solidified and it became like a
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single source of truth so if you want to
 

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single source of truth so if you want to
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find an auditor or have a question you
 

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find an auditor or have a question you
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can go and ask and say hey what should I
 

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can go and ask and say hey what should I
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be paying for the
 

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be paying for the
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who's somebody I can talk to who's
 

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who's somebody I can talk to who's
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reputable where can I find information
 

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reputable where can I find information
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to learn about security audits something
 

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to learn about security audits something
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really cool they created the eath
 

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really cool they created the eath
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security org website which launched this
 

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security org website which launched this
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week and the idea is a place for
 

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week and the idea is a place for
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resources around security so if you have
 

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a security question you can go there for
 

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a security question you can go there for
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free and try to figure out what you need
 

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free and try to figure out what you need
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to do they hosted in a vanity Berlin you
 

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magician's forum by John martlin these
 

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magician's forum by John martlin these
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guys picked it up and over a hundred
 

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guys picked it up and over a hundred
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attendees showed up right and again this
 

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attendees showed up right and again this
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is like all volunteer people coming
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together in the community to provide you
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know some results around security the
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guys in this group advised the security
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track at DEFCON and have done a bunch of
 

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track at DEFCON and have done a bunch of
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presentations they also went so far as
 

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presentations they also went so far as
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to formulate working groups to determine
 

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to formulate working groups to determine
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like guidelines common resources and are
 

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like guidelines common resources and are
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now giving out grants as well so again
 

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now giving out grants as well so again
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you know a couple people talking about
 

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you know a couple people talking about
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how shitty the auditing process was and
 

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how shitty the auditing process was and
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it turns into this like massive thing
 

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it turns into this like massive thing
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with like a whole bunch of momentum so
 

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with like a whole bunch of momentum so
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anybody in this room could have seen
 

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anybody in this room could have seen
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that problem started talking to people
 

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that problem started talking to people
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and made it happen so again like how do
 

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and made it happen so again like how do
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we do it right so like early creation is
 

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we do it right so like early creation is
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everything so somebody actually applied
 

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everything so somebody actually applied
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to the ECF for a grant to interview all
 

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to the ECF for a grant to interview all
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the best security people and in these
 

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the best security people and in these
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interviews we again made the transcripts
 

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interviews we again made the transcripts
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available and then invited everybody to
 

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available and then invited everybody to
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come and telegram thread to get people
 

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come and telegram thread to get people
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to start collaborating so if you're
 

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to start collaborating so if you're
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trying to like form an early community
 

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trying to like form an early community
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think of like who needs to be in this
 

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think of like who needs to be in this
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community where can we get them to start
 

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community where can we get them to start
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talking and like what is the mission to
 

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talking and like what is the mission to
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get these people interested so we use
 

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get these people interested so we use
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common goals to align all parties and in
 

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common goals to align all parties and in
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this case it was one the interviews and
 

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this case it was one the interviews and
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sharing of knowledge and then to funding
 

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sharing of knowledge and then to funding
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of tools so getting these people
 

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of tools so getting these people
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interested with potential funding for
 

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the tools they're building and then
 

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the tools they're building and then
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three there was the event at East Berlin
 

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three there was the event at East Berlin
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and once everybody was in this group and
 

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and once everybody was in this group and
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came to East Berlin made it really easy
 

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came to East Berlin made it really easy
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for people to want to collaborate
 

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for people to want to collaborate
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because like Greg said they're all
 

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because like Greg said they're all
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talking face to face and then provide
 

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talking face to face and then provide
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value add for the group members right
 

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value add for the group members right
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from the start so like in this group we
 

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from the start so like in this group we
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have a bi-weekly call around security
 

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have a bi-weekly call around security
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tools where people can present what
 

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tools where people can present what
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they're doing and it's a good way for
 

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they're doing and it's a good way for
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anyone who wants to learn about security
 

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anyone who wants to learn about security
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to watch what's going on and then the
 

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to watch what's going on and then the
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final one is the community of
 

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final one is the community of
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communities this was like a pretty cool
 

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communities this was like a pretty cool
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experiment where
 

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major problem is that people don't know
 

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major problem is that people don't know
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what events to go to so every week you
 

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what events to go to so every week you
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hear about some type of conference meet
 

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hear about some type of conference meet
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up is a real is it not is it valuable
 

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up is a real is it not is it valuable
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should we spend our team resources to go
 

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should we spend our team resources to go
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and so again
 

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and so again
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telegram group was made 250 community
 

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telegram group was made 250 community
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experts have joined it's you know pretty
 

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experts have joined it's you know pretty
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much people from every single ecosystem
 

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much people from every single ecosystem
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a project it's a place where you can
 

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a project it's a place where you can
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share any PR updates you want retweeted
 

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share any PR updates you want retweeted
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or clap for a medium you can ask
 

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or clap for a medium you can ask
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questions about you know hiring best
 

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questions about you know hiring best
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practices PR and there's a group of
 

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practices PR and there's a group of
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experts there that can answer for you
 

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experts there that can answer for you
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and so again it's like a single source
 

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and so again it's like a single source
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of truth you know so why does this
 

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of truth you know so why does this
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matter it's just again like in
 

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matter it's just again like in
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decentralized space it's tough to get
 

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decentralized space it's tough to get
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access to get information and no it's
 

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access to get information and no it's
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good information so it's kind of you
 

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good information so it's kind of you
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know where do I go to find experts to
 

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know where do I go to find experts to
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figure out a problem all these
 

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figure out a problem all these
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communities super-lightweight and you
 

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communities super-lightweight and you
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know really they're just problem solvers
 

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know really they're just problem solvers
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so eath prizes for tools eat security
 

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so eath prizes for tools eat security
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for security this is for like marketing
 

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for security this is for like marketing
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and building community this is where you
 

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and building community this is where you
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can go to find credible people to ask
 

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can go to find credible people to ask
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questions and it's all volunteer based
 

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questions and it's all volunteer based
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which to me is like super inspiring and
 

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which to me is like super inspiring and
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powerful so again you know I'm just kind
 

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powerful so again you know I'm just kind
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of repeating here that the PlayBook is
 

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of repeating here that the PlayBook is
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the same so if you're thinking about
 

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the same so if you're thinking about
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doing this you know you can do this you
 

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doing this you know you can do this you
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want to find an early cure you want to
 

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want to find an early cure you want to
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find a problem you want to solve make
 

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find a problem you want to solve make
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sure you find the right people early
 

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sure you find the right people early
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find common goals to align them so in
 

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find common goals to align them so in
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this case it was the events and the
 

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this case it was the events and the
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mission was like getting the best
 

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mission was like getting the best
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information around marketing and
 

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information around marketing and
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community building and then providing
 

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community building and then providing
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value right from the start so finally
 

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value right from the start so finally
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just you know I've said it a bunch of
 

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just you know I've said it a bunch of
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times but that's what I'm trying to get
 

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times but that's what I'm trying to get
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across here is like you as an individual
 

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across here is like you as an individual
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can have a huge impact each prize was
 

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can have a huge impact each prize was
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just a set of interviews things start
 

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just a set of interviews things start
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small they move really fast so each
 

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small they move really fast so each
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security was just a couple people
 

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security was just a couple people
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talking about audits and then a
 

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talking about audits and then a
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three-month period it had a hundred
 

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three-month period it had a hundred
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groups of all the best security people
 

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groups of all the best security people
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in the space hosting events running a
 

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in the space hosting events running a
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Def Con security track like this is
 

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Def Con security track like this is
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awesome this happens with completely
 

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awesome this happens with completely
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altruistically with no funding and then
 

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altruistically with no funding and then
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the final one which is most important I
 

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the final one which is most important I
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think is just listening is important so
 

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think is just listening is important so
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all these things come from listening to
 

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all these things come from listening to
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problems people are having and then
 

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problems people are having and then
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trying to take people who have the same
 

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trying to take people who have the same
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problems and put them in a group and
 

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problems and put them in a group and
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again this is kind of what's happening
 

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again this is kind of what's happening
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at the magician's and it's the first
 

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at the magician's and it's the first
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group of people who decided hey like
 

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group of people who decided hey like
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let's listen to each other and you see
 

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let's listen to each other and you see
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these awesome things happen and a lot of
 

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these awesome things happen and a lot of
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momentum is built so
 

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momentum is built so
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you know um final thing to say is just
 

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you know um final thing to say is just
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you know if we do a breakout group here
 

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you know if we do a breakout group here
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and some things that people will be
 

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and some things that people will be
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looking to talk to is like how we have
 

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looking to talk to is like how we have
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these all these groups right and like
 

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these all these groups right and like
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how can they improve so there's a lot of
 

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how can they improve so there's a lot of
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like telegram and slack and discord and
 

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like telegram and slack and discord and
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all the everywhere it's kind of
 

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all the everywhere it's kind of
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like you know I wake up when I have 50
 

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like you know I wake up when I have 50
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messages what am I looking at so how do
 

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messages what am I looking at so how do
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you make your group stand out from the
 

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you make your group stand out from the
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noise how should these groups be
 

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noise how should these groups be
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structured so if you have 200 projects
 

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structured so if you have 200 projects
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you know what are the cultural norms and
 

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you know what are the cultural norms and
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like who is the leader are their leaders
 

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like who is the leader are their leaders
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how do things get voted on this is stuff
 

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how do things get voted on this is stuff
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the magician's are working through right
 

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the magician's are working through right
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I'm pretty interested in it and then how
 

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I'm pretty interested in it and then how
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do you make sure the group continues to
 

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do you make sure the group continues to
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create value there's no financial
 

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create value there's no financial
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resources so like we wanted to do a
 

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resources so like we wanted to do a
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community of communities event at Def
 

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community of communities event at Def
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Con who's gonna pay for that because
 

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Con who's gonna pay for that because
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it's not a monetary thing so interested
 

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it's not a monetary thing so interested
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in answers to any of these questions you
 

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in answers to any of these questions you
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know how do we continue to get value
 

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know how do we continue to get value
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