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so yeah I'm Liz Steinem gir with least
 

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so yeah I'm Liz Steinem gir with least
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authority I'm going to talk today about
 

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authority I'm going to talk today about
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something that we're calling p4 because
 

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something that we're calling p4 because
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we like to play with numbers and letters
 

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we like to play with numbers and letters
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and the P the four p's are private
 

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and the P the four p's are private
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periodic payment protocol and so yeah
 

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periodic payment protocol and so yeah
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just gonna tell you guys about what our
 

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just gonna tell you guys about what our
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work is with this and why we're doing it
 

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work is with this and why we're doing it
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so like I said I'm Liz Steinem girl from
 

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so like I said I'm Liz Steinem girl from
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least authority we believe that people
 

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least authority we believe that people
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have a right to privacy our mission is
 

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have a right to privacy our mission is
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to make security easy to use and
 

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to make security easy to use and
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available to everyone we help others to
 

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available to everyone we help others to
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improve their technologies to be more
 

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improve their technologies to be more
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secure through security audits of things
 

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secure through security audits of things
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like distributed ledger technologies
 

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like distributed ledger technologies
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blockchain projects and related
 

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blockchain projects and related
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cryptographic efforts we also build
 

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cryptographic efforts we also build
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technical solutions that incorporate
 

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technical solutions that incorporate
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these values using things like privacy
 

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these values using things like privacy
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by design empowering users to control
 

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by design empowering users to control
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their own data and also minimizing the
 

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their own data and also minimizing the
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access that service providers have to
 

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access that service providers have to
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the user data or personal data data
 

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the user data or personal data data
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minimization we also like to participate
 

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minimization we also like to participate
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with other communities and work together
 

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with other communities and work together
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I'm sorry I just realized my whole slide
 

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I'm sorry I just realized my whole slide
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is not showing technical problems there
 

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is not showing technical problems there
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we go okay so we operate a
 

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we go okay so we operate a
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subscription-based service that's secure
 

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subscription-based service that's secure
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distributed storage product and we call
 

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distributed storage product and we call
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it s4 again we like our letters and
 

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it s4 again we like our letters and
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numbers and s4 stands for simple secure
 

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numbers and s4 stands for simple secure
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storage service and it's built using
 

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storage service and it's built using
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open source technology and enables
 

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open source technology and enables
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client-side encryption so that the users
 

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can hold the keys to their data not us
 

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can hold the keys to their data not us
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one of the projects that it uses that
 

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one of the projects that it uses that
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you'd eliza's is called Tahoe laughs la
 

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you'd eliza's is called Tahoe laughs la
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FS which stands for at least Authority
 

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FS which stands for at least Authority
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file store and Tahoe laughs and our s4
 

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file store and Tahoe laughs and our s4
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service doesn't operate on access
 

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control lists or ACL or user accounts
 

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control lists or ACL or user accounts
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but instead works using object
 

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but instead works using object
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capability model oh cap or key based
 

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capability model oh cap or key based
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this is similar to how cryptocurrency
 

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this is similar to how cryptocurrency
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works in a high level it's similar in
 

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works in a high level it's similar in
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the sense that if you have the private
 

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the sense that if you have the private
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key you have access to the crypto to the
 

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key you have access to the crypto to the
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and there's no user lists no centralized
 

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and there's no user lists no centralized
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party that is kept that's saying that
 

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party that is kept that's saying that
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this particular cryptocurrency belongs
 

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this particular cryptocurrency belongs
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to you personally so we don't have any
 

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to you personally so we don't have any
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personal account information with our
 

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personal account information with our
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system about this so we don't have any
 

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system about this so we don't have any
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personal account information about the
 

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personal account information about the
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ciphertext that we're storing and you
 

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ciphertext that we're storing and you
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either have the capability to access it
 

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either have the capability to access it
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the key or you don't so this brings us
 

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the key or you don't so this brings us
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to our problem and why we started this
 

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to our problem and why we started this
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effort to begin with we have to use fiat
 

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effort to begin with we have to use fiat
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currency with this so anyway so with our
 

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currency with this so anyway so with our
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secure storage product we need to
 

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secure storage product we need to
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collect these subscription payments this
 

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collect these subscription payments this
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is our business model with it and in so
 

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is our business model with it and in so
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however in the world of fiat currency
 

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however in the world of fiat currency
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and online tools this results in us
 

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and online tools this results in us
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collecting personal data by using by
 

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collecting personal data by using by
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using things like stripe and charge B
 

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using things like stripe and charge B
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and we are collecting this personal data
 

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and we are collecting this personal data
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only for the purpose of processing
 

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only for the purpose of processing
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payments not for operating the service
 

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payments not for operating the service
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itself so right now we use stripe and
 

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itself so right now we use stripe and
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charge B and only collect this personal
 

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charge B and only collect this personal
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data and not for any account management
 

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data and not for any account management
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because of the o cap model so we didn't
 

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because of the o cap model so we didn't
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like this so we started talking amongst
 

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like this so we started talking amongst
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ourselves about how we could potentially
 

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ourselves about how we could potentially
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use cryptocurrency to help us avoid
 

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use cryptocurrency to help us avoid
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using these centralized systems that are
 

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using these centralized systems that are
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collecting personal data this came about
 

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collecting personal data this came about
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from discussions about GDP our
 

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from discussions about GDP our
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compliance which is the general data
 

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compliance which is the general data
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protection regulation it's in the EU
 

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protection regulation it's in the EU
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about how personal data should be
 

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about how personal data should be
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managed and so amongst ourselves we
 

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managed and so amongst ourselves we
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figured out that this was a problem and
 

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figured out that this was a problem and
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so we thought okay what could we do with
 

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so we thought okay what could we do with
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cryptocurrency so we started looking
 

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cryptocurrency so we started looking
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around and how we could accept private
 

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around and how we could accept private
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payments for the subscription service
 

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payments for the subscription service
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and that would also allow us to do and
 

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and that would also allow us to do and
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and privacy for people just like we are
 

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and privacy for people just like we are
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able to offer them end to end encryption
 

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able to offer them end to end encryption
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and privacy with the data storage
 

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and privacy with the data storage
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service itself and so of course this is
 

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service itself and so of course this is
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a problem
 

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now it's expensive to make things
 

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now it's expensive to make things
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private and cheap to make them public
 

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private and cheap to make them public
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unfortunately this seems to be the case
 

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unfortunately this seems to be the case
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right now and we're trying to work on
 

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right now and we're trying to work on
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making this not the case an expensive is
 

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making this not the case an expensive is
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relative and I think that this issue
 

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relative and I think that this issue
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could be easily challenged with new
 

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could be easily challenged with new
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technology so here are the layers of
 

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technology so here are the layers of
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privacy that we're considering when we
 

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privacy that we're considering when we
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won't say that we want to do something
 

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won't say that we want to do something
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that's end and private for the user we
 

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that's end and private for the user we
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need to preserve this customers privacy
 

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need to preserve this customers privacy
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at all these levels and these are the
 

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at all these levels and these are the
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different layers and systems that we
 

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different layers and systems that we
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need to have interacting with about
 

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need to have interacting with about
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whether or not there's any personal data
 

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whether or not there's any personal data
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that would be leaked or any metadata
 

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that would be leaked or any metadata
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that could be correlated with other data
 

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that could be correlated with other data
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to become personal data the same way
 

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to become personal data the same way
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that the same way that like things like
 

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that the same way that like things like
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Bitcoin and aetherium the addresses
 

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Bitcoin and aetherium the addresses
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could be you you know looked at
 

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could be you you know looked at
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correlated with other data in order to
 

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correlated with other data in order to
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figure out people so that figure out
 

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figure out people so that figure out
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personal identities so that are not true
 

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personal identities so that are not true
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anonymity but pseudonym anonymity so
 

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anonymity but pseudonym anonymity so
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starting from the bottom and moving to
 

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starting from the bottom and moving to
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the top we decided to use tor for
 

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the top we decided to use tor for
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network layer privacy because it exists
 

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network layer privacy because it exists
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right now and it's usable some of our
 

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right now and it's usable some of our
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team members contribute to the Tor
 

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team members contribute to the Tor
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project which is an anonymity network
 

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project which is an anonymity network
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that allows users to not reveal personal
 

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that allows users to not reveal personal
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data on the network and this protects
 

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data on the network and this protects
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against leaking any IP address
 

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against leaking any IP address
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information which can be considered
 

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information which can be considered
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personal data and then Tahoe laughs is
 

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personal data and then Tahoe laughs is
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the technology as I mentioned before
 

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the technology as I mentioned before
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that we use with s4 and this offers
 

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that we use with s4 and this offers
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storage laver layer privacy with
 

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storage laver layer privacy with
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client-side encryption and lastly we
 

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client-side encryption and lastly we
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also use or not not Leslie sorry and
 

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also use or not not Leslie sorry and
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then we have Z cache I think I I missed
 

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then we have Z cache I think I I missed
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that sorry going up I skipped over Z
 

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that sorry going up I skipped over Z
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cache see cache I'll talk more about it
 

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cache see cache I'll talk more about it
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in the next slide but Z cache sue
 

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in the next slide but Z cache sue
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shielded transactions help us with
 

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shielded transactions help us with
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financial privacy and then Tahoe laughs
 

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financial privacy and then Tahoe laughs
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again helps us with the storage layer
 

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again helps us with the storage layer
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privacy and then going at the top we
 

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privacy and then going at the top we
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have the client application which is
 

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have the client application which is
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grid sync that we're using for ours but
 

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grid sync that we're using for ours but
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this also applies to the Z cash wallets
 

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this also applies to the Z cash wallets
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and this gives users control over their
 

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and this gives users control over their
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payments and all of this is combined
 

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payments and all of this is combined
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what we need to give us and and privacy
 

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what we need to give us and and privacy
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for our subscription customers and why
 

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for our subscription customers and why
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we particularly like doing it this way
 

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we particularly like doing it this way
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is because these all these things exist
 

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is because these all these things exist
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right now and we can put them together
 

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right now and we can put them together
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to have this implemented in a short
 

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to have this implemented in a short
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amount of time so about cryptocurrency
 

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amount of time so about cryptocurrency
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payments cryptocurrencies have some
 

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payments cryptocurrencies have some
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technical features that could be
 

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technical features that could be
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utilized including some privacy features
 

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utilized including some privacy features
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one blockchain that we are familiar with
 

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one blockchain that we are familiar with
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is the cache our company's share
 

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is the cache our company's share
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founders and although there are two
 

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founders and although there are two
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separate companies now so we should also
 

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separate companies now so we should also
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share mission for privacy for everyone
 

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share mission for privacy for everyone
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so we looked at how we could use utilize
 

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so we looked at how we could use utilize
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D caches privacy features to help us
 

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D caches privacy features to help us
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preserve privacy in our processing of
 

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preserve privacy in our processing of
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customer payments and of course Z cache
 

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customer payments and of course Z cache
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offers two types of payments one that
 

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offers two types of payments one that
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our trend transparents transparent
 

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our trend transparents transparent
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transactions and that which are is more
 

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transactions and that which are is more
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like Bitcoin and then also the shielded
 

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like Bitcoin and then also the shielded
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transactions which utilize a particular
 

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transactions which utilize a particular
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type of zero knowledge proof called ZK
 

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type of zero knowledge proof called ZK
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snarks and so this assures so for
 

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snarks and so this assures so for
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subscriptions we need to establish a
 

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subscriptions we need to establish a
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the merchant to facilitate payments that
 

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the merchant to facilitate payments that
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repeat at specific intervals so we went
 

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repeat at specific intervals so we went
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on to look at subscriptions with
 

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on to look at subscriptions with
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cryptocurrency so when we researched
 

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cryptocurrency so when we researched
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what was out there and the standards for
 

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doing subscription payments with crypto
 

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doing subscription payments with crypto
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currencies what we found was a bit
 

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currencies what we found was a bit
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limiting and didn't quite meet our needs
 

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limiting and didn't quite meet our needs
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especially in the case of end-to-end
 

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especially in the case of end-to-end
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privacy one current use of ZK shielded
 

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privacy one current use of ZK shielded
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transactions is to have people prepay
 

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transactions is to have people prepay
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for their subscriptions this this works
 

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for their subscriptions this this works
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okay this is not ideal for subscriptions
 

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okay this is not ideal for subscriptions
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but this does work for some service
 

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but this does work for some service
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offerings where you can turn off the
 

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offerings where you can turn off the
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service when a payment lapses and then
 

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service when a payment lapses and then
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turn it back on later after new payment
 

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turn it back on later after new payment
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and like for example electricity
 

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and like for example electricity
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payments however in our case because
 

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payments however in our case because
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people are uploading data to be stored
 

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people are uploading data to be stored
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on our storage service this is not an
 

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on our storage service this is not an
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ideal user experience because if they
 

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ideal user experience because if they
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stop their server because of the need to
 

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stop their server because of the need to
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re-upload that data every single time
 

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re-upload that data every single time
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and so amongst other downsides to this
 

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and so amongst other downsides to this
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approach - and then another option is to
 

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approach - and then another option is to
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do post paid subscriptions but this is
 

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also not ideal and it may
 

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also not ideal and it may
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renewal or payment periodicity a
 

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challenge and of course you can use
 

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challenge and of course you can use
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smart contracts for managing some
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aspects of subscriptions but this and
 

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aspects of subscriptions but this and
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this is an option with aetherium and
 

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this is an option with aetherium and
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other platforms but it doesn't really
 

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other platforms but it doesn't really
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offer much in terms of privacy at the
 

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offer much in terms of privacy at the
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moment and you can't do those on the Z
 

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moment and you can't do those on the Z
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cash blockchain at the moment and I hope
 

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cash blockchain at the moment and I hope
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to see both of those things change soon
 

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to see both of those things change soon
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too so this meant what this meant is
 

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too so this meant what this meant is
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that we need to do some work on defied
 

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that we need to do some work on defied
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and defining how to preserve privacy
 

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and defining how to preserve privacy
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while still establishing the necessary
 

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while still establishing the necessary
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relationship for these reoccurring
 

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relationship for these reoccurring
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cryptocurrency payments for a
 

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cryptocurrency payments for a
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subscription so this is what we came up
 

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subscription so this is what we came up
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with for p4 on the left side there's a
 

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with for p4 on the left side there's a
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list of basic tasks that we could that
 

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list of basic tasks that we could that
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we need to have completed by a
 

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we need to have completed by a
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subscription and on the right side you
 

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subscription and on the right side you
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can see the various pieces that the
 

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can see the various pieces that the
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various layers the pieces that I
 

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various layers the pieces that I
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mentioned earlier and they're part in
 

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mentioned earlier and they're part in
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these different steps and then this is
 

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these different steps and then this is
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all done over the Tor network so in the
 

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all done over the Tor network so in the
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first step we have the subscription
 

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first step we have the subscription
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initiation the customer visits a web
 

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initiation the customer visits a web
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page and completes the subscription
 

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page and completes the subscription
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request now because we're not caring for
 

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request now because we're not caring for
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much personal data this is probably just
 

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much personal data this is probably just
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a button actually right now it is just a
 

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a button actually right now it is just a
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button we don't have any fields or a
 

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button we don't have any fields or a
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form for them to fill out because we
 

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form for them to fill out because we
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don't want any more data we just want to
 

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don't want any more data we just want to
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know that they want to do this and so
 

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know that they want to do this and so
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and then the second step is subscription
 

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and then the second step is subscription
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creation and invitation and byte code so
 

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creation and invitation and byte code so
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we the merchant create Z cash address
 

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we the merchant create Z cash address
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and the and an initial database entry to
 

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and the and an initial database entry to
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link the subscription ID to the Z cash
 

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link the subscription ID to the Z cash
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address we generate a special invite
 

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address we generate a special invite
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code for the subscription that includes
 

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code for the subscription that includes
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configuration details to access our
 

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configuration details to access our
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storage servers the capability that I
 

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storage servers the capability that I
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mentioned before and it also includes
 

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mentioned before and it also includes
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the initial invoice for the service and
 

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the initial invoice for the service and
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in that invoice is a signature so that
 

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in that invoice is a signature so that
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they can also verify us in the future
 

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they can also verify us in the future
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and then the third step is client side
 

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and then the third step is client side
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subscription configuration the customers
 

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subscription configuration the customers
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client a desktop application in our case
 

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client a desktop application in our case
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grid sync that I mentioned earlier
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securely connects to us receives and
 

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securely connects to us receives and
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receives the invite code and then gets
 

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receives the invite code and then gets
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configured for both managing the data
 

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configured for both managing the data
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they will store on our service and also
 

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they will store on our service and also
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the invoices they will receive for it
 

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the invoices they will receive for it
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and the fourth step is
 

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and the fourth step is
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payment and server update next the
 

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payment and server update next the
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customer has to actually send their
 

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customer has to actually send their
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first payment for the service for the
 

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first payment for the service for the
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service per the invoice that they just
 

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service per the invoice that they just
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received and they need to do this
 

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received and they need to do this
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payment via a Z cash wallet that payment
 

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payment via a Z cash wallet that payment
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is processed on the Z cash blockchain
 

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is processed on the Z cash blockchain
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and we consider it a confirmed after a
 

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and we consider it a confirmed after a
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certain number of blocks are written
 

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certain number of blocks are written
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that might not take too long maybe about
 

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that might not take too long maybe about
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an hour I think right now we're thinking
 

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an hour I think right now we're thinking
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about 24 blocks and then this triggers
 

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about 24 blocks and then this triggers
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the publishing of the next invoice so
 

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the publishing of the next invoice so
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the fifth step then is the recurring
 

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the fifth step then is the recurring
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invoice and payment process from this
 

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invoice and payment process from this
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point the client monitors the next for
 

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point the client monitors the next for
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the next invoice displays it to the
 

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the next invoice displays it to the
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customer and continues to do this loop
 

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customer and continues to do this loop
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after subsequent payments are made and
 

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after subsequent payments are made and
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within when they go checked on the
 

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within when they go checked on the
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invoice there's we are also utilizing
 

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invoice there's we are also utilizing
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payment codes to be able to like to
 

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payment codes to be able to like to
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communicate to them the status of the
 

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communicate to them the status of the
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payment and then also Cigna they can
 

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payment and then also Cigna they can
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also verify the signature with each of
 

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also verify the signature with each of
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these and then if they stop paying then
 

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these and then if they stop paying then
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their service is stopped so privacy is
 

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their service is stopped so privacy is
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maintained by pushing many of the
 

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maintained by pushing many of the
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subscription management activities to
 

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subscription management activities to
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the users device into their client
 

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the users device into their client
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client so client side instead of
 

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client so client side instead of
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gathering the data in a central
 

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gathering the data in a central
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repository by a service like stripe or
 

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repository by a service like stripe or
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the equivalent of stripe and this
 

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the equivalent of stripe and this
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decentralization of subscription data
 

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decentralization of subscription data
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along with the Z cache shielded
 

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along with the Z cache shielded
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transactions and use of the Tor network
 

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transactions and use of the Tor network
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allow us to not gather personal
 

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allow us to not gather personal
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information about customers or any
 

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information about customers or any
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metadata that could be correlated for
 

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metadata that could be correlated for
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suggestions on who the user is so we'll
 

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suggestions on who the user is so we'll
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go into more details this is the invoice
 

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go into more details this is the invoice
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so as for data standards again we looked
 

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so as for data standards again we looked
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around at things that are existing right
 

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around at things that are existing right
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now and we didn't see any kind of common
 

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now and we didn't see any kind of common
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language or agreed-upon protocol for
 

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language or agreed-upon protocol for
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expressing notions like billing period
 

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expressing notions like billing period
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due date grace period and late penalties
 

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due date grace period and late penalties
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so we designed a simple invoice
 

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so we designed a simple invoice
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structure to allow us to communicate
 

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structure to allow us to communicate
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this information on the right you see a
 

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this information on the right you see a
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basic list of data that we need to have
 

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basic list of data that we need to have
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in our invoices which could be expanded
 

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in our invoices which could be expanded
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to include more data for additional
 

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to include more data for additional
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features in the future and on the left
 

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features in the future and on the left
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this is what the string of the invoice
 

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this is what the string of the invoice
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data actually looks like in this example
 

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data actually looks like in this example
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a customer is being asked
 

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a customer is being asked
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point1 Zack by a particular date here
 

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point1 Zack by a particular date here
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September 4th for the service least
 

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September 4th for the service least
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authority s for if the payment is made
 

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authority s for if the payment is made
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by a given deadline then the
 

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by a given deadline then the
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subscription will be extended for a
 

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subscription will be extended for a
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month 2.5 million seconds until October
 

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month 2.5 million seconds until October
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4th 2018 and I think in the future we
 

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4th 2018 and I think in the future we
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need to include things like you know
 

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need to include things like you know
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trial periods refunds things like that
 

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trial periods refunds things like that
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could be also included in this but this
 

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could be also included in this but this
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was just basically the the short list of
 

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was just basically the the short list of
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data that we need to just process an
 

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data that we need to just process an
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invoice for the subscription so yeah to
 

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invoice for the subscription so yeah to
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start to talk about next steps and where
 

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start to talk about next steps and where
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we're at right now
 

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we're at right now
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so we're wrapping up the edits to our
 

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so we're wrapping up the edits to our
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paper about this work and the privacy
 

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paper about this work and the privacy
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considerations that we've made in the
 

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considerations that we've made in the
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designing of it we think that by also
 

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designing of it we think that by also
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sharing you know these privacy
 

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sharing you know these privacy
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considerations not just the technical
 

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considerations not just the technical
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specifications of what we're doing that
 

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specifications of what we're doing that
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we can help people understand more about
 

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we can help people understand more about
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how to do privacy by design or just at
 

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how to do privacy by design or just at
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least explain how we're trying to do it
 

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least explain how we're trying to do it
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and we'll be publishing that paper soon
 

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and we'll be publishing that paper soon
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and we've already started implementing
 

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and we've already started implementing
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this for our s4 service we hope to have
 

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this for our s4 service we hope to have
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this we hope to have this available to
 

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this we hope to have this available to
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pay I mean to use ZK shouldered
 

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pay I mean to use ZK shouldered
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transactions to pay for our service
 

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transactions to pay for our service
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subscription sometime in a few weeks and
 

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subscription sometime in a few weeks and
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this includes making updates to our
 

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this includes making updates to our
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desktop client grid sync and also yeah
 

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desktop client grid sync and also yeah
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just making sure that the you know
 

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just making sure that the you know
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setting up this also includes setting up
 

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setting up this also includes setting up
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a separate tour website for people to
 

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a separate tour website for people to
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visit and things like that because we
 

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visit and things like that because we
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need to force people even from the time
 

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need to force people even from the time
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that they're interested they're browsing
 

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that they're interested they're browsing
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trying to figure out if they want to
 

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trying to figure out if they want to
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subscribe to our service to start to use
 

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subscribe to our service to start to use
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tor so that we don't get that IP address
 

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tor so that we don't get that IP address
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that we can correlate later yeah so also
 

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that we can correlate later yeah so also
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the sapling upgrade to Z cache just
 

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the sapling upgrade to Z cache just
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recently happened and that how it helps
 

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recently happened and that how it helps
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for faster to make a Z cache faster
 

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for faster to make a Z cache faster
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especially as shielded transactions and
 

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especially as shielded transactions and
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then we hope to get lots of feedback
 

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then we hope to get lots of feedback
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from various communities especially this
 

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from various communities especially this
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community on to help us iterate and
 

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community on to help us iterate and
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improve this we would like to coordinate
 

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improve this we would like to coordinate
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efforts with other people who are
 

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efforts with other people who are
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working in the area of subscription
 

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working in the area of subscription
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subscription services and management
 

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subscription services and management
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within with cryptocurrency and all
 

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within with cryptocurrency and all
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so people who care about privacy
 

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so people who care about privacy
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payments and stuff like that
 

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payments and stuff like that
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so for example and then we were also
 

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so for example and then we were also
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thinking about all kinds of great things
 

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thinking about all kinds of great things
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that we could do in the future with this
 

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that we could do in the future with this
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for example we could implement a more
 

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for example we could implement a more
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robust communication channel for
 

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robust communication channel for
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subscription management via the
 

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subscription management via the
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encrypted memo field and Z cash
 

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encrypted memo field and Z cash
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transactions or data can be passed like
 

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transactions or data can be passed like
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where that invoice data could be passed
 

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where that invoice data could be passed
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back and forth as a in-band
 

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back and forth as a in-band
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communication channel we're also looking
 

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communication channel we're also looking
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at expanding on features within Tahoe
 

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at expanding on features within Tahoe
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laughs to create a communication channel
 

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laughs to create a communication channel
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there too and seeing if that would that
 

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there too and seeing if that would that
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would help and looking at improvements
 

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would help and looking at improvements
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too or integrations with customer
 

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too or integrations with customer
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wallets to support this type of
 

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wallets to support this type of
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invoicing data and also the advanced
 

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invoicing data and also the advanced
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features of things like trial periods
 

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features of things like trial periods
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refunds and stuff like that and we'd
 

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refunds and stuff like that and we'd
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like to see the development of merchants
 

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like to see the development of merchants
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facing payment frameworks to support
 

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facing payment frameworks to support
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subscriptions and management of those
 

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subscriptions and management of those
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subscriptions for companies that want to
 

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subscriptions for companies that want to
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utilize cryptocurrency payments and
 

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utilize cryptocurrency payments and
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lastly we just hope that this inspires
 

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lastly we just hope that this inspires
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other subscription services to use
 

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other subscription services to use
cryptocurrency<00:16:42.079><c> in</c><00:16:42.470><c> a</c><00:16:42.560><c> privacy-preserving</c>

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cryptocurrency in a privacy-preserving
 

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cryptocurrency in a privacy-preserving
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way while experimenting with tech we
 

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way while experimenting with tech we
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understand that maybe privacy can be
 

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understand that maybe privacy can be
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like an afterthought when you're doing
 

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like an afterthought when you're doing
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experimentation but if we do want to see
 

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experimentation but if we do want to see
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this because that in order for this to
 

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this because that in order for this to
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become mass adoption
 

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become mass adoption
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especially for cryptocurrency for
 

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especially for cryptocurrency for
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subscription payments I think that there
 

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subscription payments I think that there
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needs to be some privacy in those
 

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needs to be some privacy in those
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payments otherwise the world can see
 

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payments otherwise the world can see
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everything that you're subscribing to
 

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everything that you're subscribing to
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and that's not so cool other and also
 

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and that's not so cool other and also
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even if it's not so obvious what that
 

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even if it's not so obvious what that
data<00:17:13.429><c> is</c><00:17:13.579><c> if</c><00:17:14.150><c> it's</c><00:17:14.419><c> just</c><00:17:14.720><c> like</c><00:17:14.870><c> metadata</c><00:17:15.350><c> or</c>

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data is if it's just like metadata or
 

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data is if it's just like metadata or
something<00:17:15.890><c> with</c><00:17:16.579><c> big</c><00:17:16.789><c> data</c><00:17:17.030><c> analytic</c><00:17:17.870><c> capable</c>

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something with big data analytic capable
 

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something with big data analytic capable
it<00:17:18.799><c> of</c><00:17:18.890><c> capable</c><00:17:19.309><c> capabilities</c><00:17:20.150><c> that</c><00:17:20.270><c> are</c><00:17:20.419><c> out</c>

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it of capable capabilities that are out
 

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it of capable capabilities that are out
there<00:17:20.689><c> right</c><00:17:20.839><c> now</c><00:17:20.900><c> people</c><00:17:21.409><c> could</c><00:17:21.679><c> start</c><00:17:21.980><c> to</c>

00:17:22.120 --> 00:17:22.130 align:start position:0%
there right now people could start to
 

00:17:22.130 --> 00:17:24.460 align:start position:0%
there right now people could start to
easily<00:17:22.610><c> correlate</c><00:17:23.120><c> that</c><00:17:23.150><c> data</c><00:17:23.510><c> to</c><00:17:23.870><c> other</c><00:17:24.110><c> data</c>

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easily correlate that data to other data
 

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easily correlate that data to other data
that's<00:17:24.559><c> out</c><00:17:24.919><c> there</c><00:17:25.130><c> and</c><00:17:25.339><c> figure</c><00:17:26.000><c> out</c><00:17:26.059><c> more</c>

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that's out there and figure out more
 

00:17:26.449 --> 00:17:29.080 align:start position:0%
that's out there and figure out more
about<00:17:26.689><c> you</c><00:17:26.839><c> too</c><00:17:27.459><c> so</c><00:17:28.459><c> any</c><00:17:28.789><c> current</c>

00:17:29.080 --> 00:17:29.090 align:start position:0%
about you too so any current
 

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about you too so any current
pseudonymity<00:17:29.750><c> pseudo</c><00:17:30.350><c> anonymity</c><00:17:30.740><c> that</c><00:17:30.950><c> we</c>

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pseudonymity pseudo anonymity that we
 

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pseudonymity pseudo anonymity that we
have<00:17:31.490><c> right</c><00:17:31.669><c> now</c><00:17:31.700><c> will</c><00:17:32.179><c> be</c><00:17:32.270><c> quickly</c><00:17:32.480><c> lost</c><00:17:32.780><c> and</c>

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have right now will be quickly lost and
 

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have right now will be quickly lost and
a<00:17:33.740><c> major</c><00:17:33.919><c> factor</c><00:17:34.309><c> in</c><00:17:34.659><c> decentralization</c><00:17:35.659><c> is</c>

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a major factor in decentralization is
 

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a major factor in decentralization is
removing<00:17:36.530><c> such</c><00:17:37.159><c> power</c><00:17:37.400><c> from</c><00:17:37.760><c> big</c>

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removing such power from big
 

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removing such power from big
corporations<00:17:38.360><c> Central's</c><00:17:39.169><c> central</c>

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corporations Central's central
 

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corporations Central's central
organizations<00:17:40.490><c> and</c><00:17:40.789><c> giving</c><00:17:41.419><c> it</c><00:17:41.570><c> to</c><00:17:41.600><c> us</c><00:17:41.990><c> as</c>

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organizations and giving it to us as
 

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organizations and giving it to us as
individuals<00:17:42.770><c> to</c><00:17:42.980><c> manage</c><00:17:43.070><c> our</c><00:17:43.400><c> subscriptions</c>

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individuals to manage our subscriptions
 

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individuals to manage our subscriptions
ourselves<00:17:44.360><c> so</c><00:17:45.080><c> usability</c><00:17:45.890><c> will</c><00:17:46.040><c> be</c><00:17:46.190><c> very</c><00:17:46.640><c> key</c>

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ourselves so usability will be very key
 

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ourselves so usability will be very key
in<00:17:47.120><c> this</c><00:17:47.270><c> too</c><00:17:47.510><c> so</c><00:17:48.110><c> I</c><00:17:48.320><c> look</c>

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in this too so I look
 

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in this too so I look
forward<00:17:48.980><c> to</c><00:17:49.240><c> hearing</c><00:17:50.240><c> from</c><00:17:50.510><c> people</c><00:17:50.840><c> about</c>

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forward to hearing from people about
 

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forward to hearing from people about
these<00:17:51.770><c> efforts</c><00:17:51.950><c> and</c><00:17:52.250><c> how</c><00:17:52.370><c> we</c><00:17:52.430><c> can</c><00:17:52.640><c> move</c>

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these efforts and how we can move
 

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these efforts and how we can move
forward<00:17:53.590><c> thank</c><00:17:54.590><c> you</c>

00:17:54.970 --> 00:17:54.980 align:start position:0%
forward thank you
 

00:17:54.980 --> 00:18:01.330 align:start position:0%
forward thank you
thanks<00:17:59.200><c> yeah</c><00:18:00.200><c> we</c><00:18:00.350><c> have</c><00:18:00.500><c> about</c><00:18:00.710><c> four</c><00:18:01.010><c> minutes</c>

00:18:01.330 --> 00:18:01.340 align:start position:0%
thanks yeah we have about four minutes
 

00:18:01.340 --> 00:18:05.140 align:start position:0%
thanks yeah we have about four minutes
for<00:18:01.550><c> questions</c><00:18:01.940><c> does</c><00:18:02.210><c> anyone</c><00:18:02.480><c> have</c><00:18:02.630><c> any</c><00:18:03.430><c> hi</c><00:18:04.430><c> is</c>

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for questions does anyone have any hi is
 

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for questions does anyone have any hi is
there<00:18:05.360><c> any</c><00:18:06.700><c> anything</c><00:18:07.700><c> that's</c><00:18:08.270><c> in</c><00:18:08.810><c> that's</c>

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there any anything that's in that's
 

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there any anything that's in that's
stored<00:18:09.920><c> in</c><00:18:10.040><c> the</c><00:18:10.250><c> data</c><00:18:10.760><c> that</c><00:18:10.910><c> allows</c><00:18:11.600><c> me</c><00:18:11.840><c> to</c><00:18:12.050><c> if</c>

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stored in the data that allows me to if
 

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stored in the data that allows me to if
I<00:18:12.530><c> was</c><00:18:12.620><c> a</c><00:18:12.680><c> user</c><00:18:12.860><c> to</c><00:18:13.160><c> get</c><00:18:13.370><c> any</c><00:18:13.670><c> kind</c><00:18:13.850><c> of</c><00:18:13.940><c> proof</c>

00:18:14.320 --> 00:18:14.330 align:start position:0%
I was a user to get any kind of proof
 

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I was a user to get any kind of proof
that<00:18:14.360><c> says</c><00:18:14.900><c> my</c><00:18:15.410><c> data</c><00:18:15.650><c> is</c><00:18:15.830><c> being</c><00:18:16.040><c> stored</c><00:18:16.250><c> and</c>

00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:16.730 align:start position:0%
that says my data is being stored and
 

00:18:16.730 --> 00:18:19.630 align:start position:0%
that says my data is being stored and
and<00:18:17.360><c> is</c><00:18:17.450><c> retrievable</c><00:18:18.050><c> if</c><00:18:18.830><c> I'm</c><00:18:19.010><c> subscribed</c><00:18:19.490><c> to</c>

00:18:19.630 --> 00:18:19.640 align:start position:0%
and is retrievable if I'm subscribed to
 

00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:22.120 align:start position:0%
and is retrievable if I'm subscribed to
a<00:18:19.670><c> service</c><00:18:20.000><c> like</c><00:18:20.150><c> this</c><00:18:20.380><c> yeah</c><00:18:21.380><c> so</c><00:18:21.590><c> in</c><00:18:21.770><c> Tahoe</c>

00:18:22.120 --> 00:18:22.130 align:start position:0%
a service like this yeah so in Tahoe
 

00:18:22.130 --> 00:18:24.190 align:start position:0%
a service like this yeah so in Tahoe
laughs<00:18:22.460><c> if</c><00:18:22.850><c> there's</c><00:18:23.090><c> proof</c><00:18:23.390><c> of</c><00:18:23.600><c> storage</c><00:18:24.050><c> I</c>

00:18:24.190 --> 00:18:24.200 align:start position:0%
laughs if there's proof of storage I
 

00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:26.530 align:start position:0%
laughs if there's proof of storage I
don't<00:18:24.410><c> think</c><00:18:24.650><c> so</c><00:18:24.830><c> right</c><00:18:24.860><c> now</c><00:18:25.220><c> I</c><00:18:26.000><c> think</c><00:18:26.360><c> that</c>

00:18:26.530 --> 00:18:26.540 align:start position:0%
don't think so right now I think that
 

00:18:26.540 --> 00:18:28.840 align:start position:0%
don't think so right now I think that
there's<00:18:27.100><c> yeah</c><00:18:28.100><c> there's</c><00:18:28.130><c> maybe</c><00:18:28.460><c> some</c><00:18:28.700><c> other</c>

00:18:28.840 --> 00:18:28.850 align:start position:0%
there's yeah there's maybe some other
 

00:18:28.850 --> 00:18:30.310 align:start position:0%
there's yeah there's maybe some other
ways<00:18:28.970><c> to</c><00:18:29.090><c> do</c><00:18:29.180><c> it</c><00:18:29.210><c> but</c><00:18:29.300><c> not</c><00:18:29.510><c> not</c><00:18:29.840><c> in</c><00:18:29.990><c> the</c><00:18:30.110><c> sense</c>

00:18:30.310 --> 00:18:30.320 align:start position:0%
ways to do it but not not in the sense
 

00:18:30.320 --> 00:18:31.750 align:start position:0%
ways to do it but not not in the sense
that<00:18:30.410><c> there</c><00:18:30.770><c> yeah</c>

00:18:31.750 --> 00:18:31.760 align:start position:0%
that there yeah
 

00:18:31.760 --> 00:18:33.100 align:start position:0%
that there yeah
not<00:18:32.120><c> in</c><00:18:32.210><c> the</c><00:18:32.270><c> sense</c><00:18:32.360><c> of</c><00:18:32.480><c> the</c><00:18:32.570><c> other</c><00:18:32.720><c> projects</c>

00:18:33.100 --> 00:18:33.110 align:start position:0%
not in the sense of the other projects
 

00:18:33.110 --> 00:18:46.120 align:start position:0%
not in the sense of the other projects
that<00:18:33.200><c> have</c><00:18:33.350><c> that</c><00:18:33.500><c> right</c><00:18:33.590><c> now</c><00:18:40.660><c> which</c><00:18:44.770><c> I'm</c><00:18:45.770><c> sorry</c>

00:18:46.120 --> 00:18:46.130 align:start position:0%
that have that right now which I'm sorry
 

00:18:46.130 --> 00:18:52.180 align:start position:0%
that have that right now which I'm sorry
Oh<00:18:49.810><c> merchant</c><00:18:50.810><c> networks</c><00:18:51.140><c> so</c><00:18:51.920><c> we're</c><00:18:52.070><c> the</c>

00:18:52.180 --> 00:18:52.190 align:start position:0%
Oh merchant networks so we're the
 

00:18:52.190 --> 00:18:54.310 align:start position:0%
Oh merchant networks so we're the
merchants<00:18:52.550><c> right</c><00:18:52.730><c> now</c><00:18:52.940><c> in</c><00:18:53.240><c> this</c><00:18:53.690><c> case</c><00:18:53.960><c> in</c><00:18:54.230><c> this</c>

00:18:54.310 --> 00:18:54.320 align:start position:0%
merchants right now in this case in this
 

00:18:54.320 --> 00:18:55.930 align:start position:0%
merchants right now in this case in this
use<00:18:54.500><c> case</c><00:18:54.530><c> where</c><00:18:54.950><c> the</c><00:18:55.070><c> merchants</c><00:18:55.400><c> and</c><00:18:55.550><c> this</c><00:18:55.790><c> is</c>

00:18:55.930 --> 00:18:55.940 align:start position:0%
use case where the merchants and this is
 

00:18:55.940 --> 00:18:57.220 align:start position:0%
use case where the merchants and this is
just<00:18:56.150><c> how</c><00:18:56.300><c> we're</c><00:18:56.510><c> going</c><00:18:56.600><c> to</c><00:18:56.660><c> handle</c><00:18:56.930><c> it</c><00:18:57.050><c> as</c><00:18:57.200><c> a</c>

00:18:57.220 --> 00:18:57.230 align:start position:0%
just how we're going to handle it as a
 

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just how we're going to handle it as a
merchant<00:18:57.520><c> in</c><00:18:58.520><c> terms</c><00:18:58.850><c> of</c><00:18:59.120><c> integrating</c><00:18:59.870><c> with</c>

00:18:59.890 --> 00:18:59.900 align:start position:0%
merchant in terms of integrating with
 

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merchant in terms of integrating with
other<00:19:00.110><c> merchant</c><00:19:00.560><c> networks</c><00:19:00.860><c> that</c><00:19:01.070><c> would</c><00:19:01.220><c> be</c>

00:19:01.360 --> 00:19:01.370 align:start position:0%
other merchant networks that would be
 

00:19:01.370 --> 00:19:02.590 align:start position:0%
other merchant networks that would be
something<00:19:01.670><c> that</c><00:19:01.790><c> we</c><00:19:01.970><c> could</c><00:19:02.060><c> talk</c><00:19:02.240><c> about</c><00:19:02.480><c> is</c>

00:19:02.590 --> 00:19:02.600 align:start position:0%
something that we could talk about is
 

00:19:02.600 --> 00:19:12.730 align:start position:0%
something that we could talk about is
like<00:19:02.750><c> a</c><00:19:02.780><c> future</c><00:19:03.260><c> possibility</c><00:19:04.100><c> and</c><00:19:11.560><c> you</c><00:19:12.560><c> mean</c>

00:19:12.730 --> 00:19:12.740 align:start position:0%
like a future possibility and you mean
 

00:19:12.740 --> 00:19:14.920 align:start position:0%
like a future possibility and you mean
other<00:19:12.920><c> companies</c><00:19:13.460><c> other</c><00:19:13.760><c> merchants</c><00:19:14.330><c> like</c>

00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:14.930 align:start position:0%
other companies other merchants like
 

00:19:14.930 --> 00:19:17.730 align:start position:0%
other companies other merchants like
Netflix<00:19:15.770><c> or</c><00:19:16.040><c> something</c><00:19:16.910><c> like</c><00:19:17.030><c> that</c><00:19:17.090><c> thank</c><00:19:17.600><c> you</c>

00:19:17.730 --> 00:19:17.740 align:start position:0%
Netflix or something like that thank you
 

00:19:17.740 --> 00:19:20.590 align:start position:0%
Netflix or something like that thank you
like<00:19:18.740><c> any</c><00:19:18.950><c> of</c><00:19:19.070><c> this</c><00:19:19.340><c> subscription</c><00:19:19.880><c> providers</c>

00:19:20.590 --> 00:19:20.600 align:start position:0%
like any of this subscription providers
 

00:19:20.600 --> 00:19:24.010 align:start position:0%
like any of this subscription providers
have<00:19:20.900><c> they</c><00:19:21.310><c> shown</c><00:19:22.310><c> interest</c><00:19:22.790><c> into</c><00:19:23.270><c> using</c><00:19:23.720><c> this</c>

00:19:24.010 --> 00:19:24.020 align:start position:0%
have they shown interest into using this
 

00:19:24.020 --> 00:19:28.660 align:start position:0%
have they shown interest into using this
kind<00:19:24.350><c> of</c><00:19:26.110><c> like</c><00:19:27.110><c> anonymous</c><00:19:27.590><c> payments</c><00:19:28.400><c> into</c>

00:19:28.660 --> 00:19:28.670 align:start position:0%
kind of like anonymous payments into
 

00:19:28.670 --> 00:19:33.490 align:start position:0%
kind of like anonymous payments into
their<00:19:29.020><c> service</c><00:19:31.000><c> well</c><00:19:32.000><c> yeah</c><00:19:32.270><c> so</c><00:19:32.510><c> other</c><00:19:32.720><c> so</c>

00:19:33.490 --> 00:19:33.500 align:start position:0%
their service well yeah so other so
 

00:19:33.500 --> 00:19:35.320 align:start position:0%
their service well yeah so other so
other<00:19:33.680><c> companies</c><00:19:34.190><c> have</c><00:19:34.430><c> said</c><00:19:34.820><c> that</c><00:19:34.970><c> they</c><00:19:35.090><c> want</c>

00:19:35.320 --> 00:19:35.330 align:start position:0%
other companies have said that they want
 

00:19:35.330 --> 00:19:37.210 align:start position:0%
other companies have said that they want
to<00:19:35.540><c> do</c><00:19:35.780><c> subscription</c><00:19:36.560><c> payments</c><00:19:37.070><c> with</c>

00:19:37.210 --> 00:19:37.220 align:start position:0%
to do subscription payments with
 

00:19:37.220 --> 00:19:40.060 align:start position:0%
to do subscription payments with
cryptocurrency<00:19:38.200><c> so</c><00:19:39.200><c> like</c><00:19:39.650><c> I</c><00:19:39.740><c> said</c><00:19:39.800><c> you</c><00:19:39.950><c> could</c>

00:19:40.060 --> 00:19:40.070 align:start position:0%
cryptocurrency so like I said you could
 

00:19:40.070 --> 00:19:42.550 align:start position:0%
cryptocurrency so like I said you could
do<00:19:40.300><c> right</c><00:19:41.300><c> now</c><00:19:41.450><c> subscription</c><00:19:41.870><c> payments</c><00:19:42.440><c> right</c>

00:19:42.550 --> 00:19:42.560 align:start position:0%
do right now subscription payments right
 

00:19:42.560 --> 00:19:44.020 align:start position:0%
do right now subscription payments right
now<00:19:42.710><c> we're</c><00:19:42.890><c> kind</c><00:19:43.130><c> of</c><00:19:43.220><c> difficult</c><00:19:43.670><c> there's</c><00:19:43.880><c> some</c>

00:19:44.020 --> 00:19:44.030 align:start position:0%
now we're kind of difficult there's some
 

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now we're kind of difficult there's some
workarounds<00:19:44.600><c> that</c><00:19:44.660><c> we</c><00:19:44.840><c> have</c><00:19:45.020><c> but</c><00:19:45.380><c> we</c><00:19:45.920><c> need</c><00:19:46.070><c> to</c>

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workarounds that we have but we need to
 

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workarounds that we have but we need to
make<00:19:46.340><c> those</c><00:19:46.460><c> easier</c><00:19:46.880><c> to</c><00:19:47.000><c> use</c><00:19:47.180><c> for</c>

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make those easier to use for
 

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make those easier to use for
cryptocurrency<00:19:47.870><c> in</c><00:19:48.230><c> general</c><00:19:48.620><c> and</c><00:19:48.860><c> then</c><00:19:49.400><c> when</c>

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cryptocurrency in general and then when
 

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cryptocurrency in general and then when
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it comes to the angle of privacy I think
 

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it comes to the angle of privacy I think
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that well it might be okay to not be so
 

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that well it might be okay to not be so
worried<00:19:55.280><c> about</c><00:19:55.370><c> the</c><00:19:55.640><c> personal</c><00:19:56.060><c> data</c><00:19:56.240><c> that's</c>

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worried about the personal data that's
 

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worried about the personal data that's
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being leaked in the experimental phase
 

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being leaked in the experimental phase
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in the short term that if we want to see
 

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in the short term that if we want to see
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in the long term if we want to see mass
 

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in the long term if we want to see mass
adoption<00:20:03.340><c> I</c><00:20:03.820><c> think</c><00:20:04.000><c> we</c><00:20:04.120><c> need</c><00:20:04.299><c> to</c><00:20:04.420><c> have</c><00:20:04.540><c> some</c>

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adoption I think we need to have some
 

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adoption I think we need to have some
privacy<00:20:05.049><c> preserving</c><00:20:05.860><c> features</c><00:20:06.610><c> in</c><00:20:06.940><c> these</c>

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privacy preserving features in these
 

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privacy preserving features in these
subscription<00:20:07.750><c> management</c><00:20:07.870><c> services</c><00:20:09.270><c> whether</c>

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subscription management services whether
 

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subscription management services whether
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or not that's true anonymity that's a
 

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or not that's true anonymity that's a
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difficult thing but um yeah I just I
 

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difficult thing but um yeah I just I
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think that it I think that most people
 

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think that it I think that most people
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out there just will not want to do
 

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out there just will not want to do
subscriptions<00:20:21.250><c> if</c><00:20:21.429><c> they</c><00:20:21.580><c> think</c><00:20:21.820><c> everybody</c>

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subscriptions if they think everybody
 

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subscriptions if they think everybody
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else in the world knows what they're
 

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else in the world knows what they're
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doing what they're subscribed into that
 

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doing what they're subscribed into that
I<00:20:26.170><c> think</c><00:20:26.410><c> that</c><00:20:26.530><c> we</c><00:20:26.770><c> would</c><00:20:26.950><c> want</c><00:20:27.130><c> to</c><00:20:27.190><c> keep</c><00:20:27.490><c> that</c>

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I think that we would want to keep that
 

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I think that we would want to keep that
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information to ourselves and only share
 

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information to ourselves and only share
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have you had a chance to connect with
 

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have you had a chance to connect with
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Kevin from who's doing VIP 13:37 I just
 

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Kevin from who's doing VIP 13:37 I just
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talked to him quickly about this last
 

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talked to him quickly about this last
night<00:20:43.240><c> and</c><00:20:43.780><c> yeah</c><00:20:44.740><c> well</c><00:20:45.100><c> we're</c><00:20:45.220><c> gonna</c><00:20:45.280><c> connect</c>

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night and yeah well we're gonna connect
 

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night and yeah well we're gonna connect
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some more and talk about it some more
 

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some more and talk about it some more
I'd<00:20:47.110><c> love</c><00:20:47.290><c> to</c><00:20:47.470><c> see</c><00:20:47.620><c> us</c><00:20:47.710><c> like</c><00:20:47.950><c> coordinate</c>

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I'd love to see us like coordinate
 

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I'd love to see us like coordinate
efforts<00:20:48.610><c> on</c><00:20:49.000><c> that</c><00:20:49.210><c> oh</c><00:20:49.419><c> I</c><00:20:49.660><c> see</c><00:20:49.960><c> you're</c><00:20:50.110><c> here</c><00:20:50.350><c> too</c>

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efforts on that oh I see you're here too
 

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efforts on that oh I see you're here too
awesome<00:20:51.210><c> yeah</c><00:20:52.210><c> I'd</c><00:20:52.450><c> want</c><00:20:52.480><c> us</c><00:20:52.780><c> to</c><00:20:52.929><c> coordinate</c>

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awesome yeah I'd want us to coordinate
 

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awesome yeah I'd want us to coordinate
efforts<00:20:53.500><c> on</c><00:20:53.860><c> that</c><00:20:54.010><c> because</c><00:20:54.100><c> I</c><00:20:54.190><c> think</c><00:20:54.580><c> that</c><00:20:54.790><c> it</c>

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efforts on that because I think that it
 

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efforts on that because I think that it
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would be really good to talk to make
 

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would be really good to talk to make
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sure that like you know we're being
 

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sure that like you know we're being
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consistent on how we define things like
 

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consistent on how we define things like
invoices<00:21:02.080><c> structure</c><00:21:02.650><c> and</c><00:21:02.890><c> stuff</c><00:21:03.070><c> like</c><00:21:03.250><c> that</c>

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invoices structure and stuff like that
 

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invoices structure and stuff like that
and<00:21:04.140><c> yeah</c><00:21:05.140><c> see</c><00:21:05.559><c> if</c><00:21:05.650><c> we</c><00:21:05.860><c> can</c><00:21:06.010><c> help</c><00:21:06.250><c> with</c><00:21:06.429><c> privacy</c>

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and yeah see if we can help with privacy
 

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and yeah see if we can help with privacy
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on the etherium Network - any other
 

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on the etherium Network - any other
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questions so one question uh you say you
 

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questions so one question uh you say you
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comply with gdpr but how about AML anti
 

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comply with gdpr but how about AML anti
money<00:21:19.870><c> laundering</c>

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money laundering
 

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money laundering
you're<00:21:20.799><c> opposed</c><00:21:21.190><c> to</c><00:21:21.660><c> monitor</c><00:21:22.660><c> transactions</c>

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you're opposed to monitor transactions
 

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you're opposed to monitor transactions
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if it's recurring payments if it's over
 

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if it's recurring payments if it's over
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fifty thousand how can you do that with
 

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fifty thousand how can you do that with
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uh if you don't know your customers yes
 

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uh if you don't know your customers yes
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okay I see AML stuff will I didn't sure
 

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okay I see AML stuff will I didn't sure
there's<00:21:34.929><c> yet</c><00:21:35.470><c> like</c><00:21:35.620><c> you</c><00:21:35.710><c> said</c><00:21:35.860><c> you</c><00:21:35.950><c> mentioned</c>

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there's yet like you said you mentioned
 

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there's yet like you said you mentioned
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fifty thousand in this case like to
 

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fifty thousand in this case like to
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subscribe to our data storage service
 

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subscribe to our data storage service
it's<00:21:40.450><c> definitely</c><00:21:40.929><c> not</c><00:21:41.049><c> fifty</c><00:21:41.380><c> thousand</c><00:21:42.030><c> it's</c>

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it's definitely not fifty thousand it's
 

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it's definitely not fifty thousand it's
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much cheaper than that so I think for
 

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much cheaper than that so I think for
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like the day to day subscriptions that
 

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like the day to day subscriptions that
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shouldn't be a problem but I can tell
 

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shouldn't be a problem but I can tell
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you once we implement this and we start
 

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you once we implement this and we start
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actually receiving these these payments
 

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actually receiving these these payments
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for our service in that way our business
 

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for our service in that way our business
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will definitely and before that - but
 

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will definitely and before that - but
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I'll know a lot more about how this is
 

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I'll know a lot more about how this is
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actually going to be handled by the
 

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actually going to be handled by the
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regulator's at least in Germany but
 

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regulator's at least in Germany but
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right now it doesn't we don't foresee
 

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right now it doesn't we don't foresee
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any major problems about that because
 

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any major problems about that because
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again kyc AML is more
 

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again kyc AML is more
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about like large quantities of money as
 

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about like large quantities of money as
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far as I understand you're shaking your
 

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far as I understand you're shaking your
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head no though no not that's not my area
 

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head no though no not that's not my area
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of expertise but I think that that's
 

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of expertise but I think that that's
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definitely something that we should
 

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definitely something that we should
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explore but I also think it's
 

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explore but I also think it's
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unrealistic to do the opposite thing
 

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unrealistic to do the opposite thing
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which is to have all of this personal
 

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which is to have all of this personal
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data floating around in public too so we
 

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data floating around in public too so we
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have to I think we have to find some
 

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have to I think we have to find some
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sort of like common ground between
 

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sort of like common ground between
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offering more privacy for subscription
 

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offering more privacy for subscription
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payments you with cryptocurrency and
 

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payments you with cryptocurrency and
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