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Jordan he hadn't rebuild his life and 00:15:41.940 --> 00:15:43.040 align:start position:0% Jordan he hadn't rebuild his life and that's<00:15:42.060> when<00:15:42.270> he<00:15:42.330> got<00:15:42.360> into<00:15:42.570> cryptocurrency 00:15:43.040 --> 00:15:43.050 align:start position:0% that's when he got into cryptocurrency 00:15:43.050 --> 00:15:46.940 align:start position:0% that's when he got into cryptocurrency he's<00:15:43.860> like<00:15:44.010> I<00:15:44.250> need<00:15:44.720> I<00:15:45.720> need<00:15:46.260> to<00:15:46.560> be<00:15:46.680> able<00:15:46.800> to 00:15:46.940 --> 00:15:46.950 align:start position:0% he's like I need I need to be able to 00:15:46.950 --> 00:15:50.030 align:start position:0% he's like I need I need to be able to protect<00:15:47.100> my<00:15:47.400> wealth<00:15:47.810> I<00:15:48.810> need<00:15:49.470> that<00:15:49.680> freedom 00:15:50.030 --> 00:15:50.040 align:start position:0% protect my wealth I need that freedom 00:15:50.040 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possibility we'll just end up building<00:21:24.470> the<00:21:24.740> same<00:21:24.890> thing<00:21:25.130> in<00:21:25.279> in<00:21:25.909> 10<00:21:26.120> years 00:21:26.320 --> 00:21:26.330 align:start position:0% building the same thing in in 10 years 00:21:26.330 --> 00:21:30.639 align:start position:0% building the same thing in in 10 years time<00:21:26.600> I<00:21:28.330> there's<00:21:29.330> a<00:21:29.419> possibility<00:21:30.140> but<00:21:30.500> we're 00:21:30.639 --> 00:21:30.649 align:start position:0% time I there's a possibility but we're 00:21:30.649 --> 00:21:32.889 align:start position:0% time I there's a possibility but we're so<00:21:30.860> diverse<00:21:31.610> as<00:21:31.880> people<00:21:32.210> and<00:21:32.539> so<00:21:32.690> opinionated 00:21:32.889 --> 00:21:32.899 align:start position:0% so diverse as people and so opinionated 00:21:32.899 --> 00:21:35.950 align:start position:0% so diverse as people and so opinionated I'm<00:21:33.470> 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possible do you 00:22:24.529 --> 00:22:26.799 align:start position:0% think point mergers are possible do you think<00:22:24.740> they're<00:22:24.860> a<00:22:24.889> good<00:22:25.010> idea<00:22:25.309> I<00:22:25.720> think<00:22:26.720> it's 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:26.809 align:start position:0% think they're a good idea I think it's 00:22:26.809 --> 00:22:28.180 align:start position:0% think they're a good idea I think it's super<00:22:26.990> interesting<00:22:27.409> but<00:22:27.740> it<00:22:27.860> for<00:22:28.010> me<00:22:28.070> it's 00:22:28.180 --> 00:22:28.190 align:start position:0% super interesting but it for me it's 00:22:28.190 --> 00:22:31.210 align:start position:0% super interesting but it for me it's like<00:22:28.309> this<00:22:28.690> like<00:22:29.690> two<00:22:30.289> jet<00:22:30.590> planes<00:22:30.889> like 00:22:31.210 --> 00:22:31.220 align:start position:0% like this like two jet planes like 00:22:31.220 --> 00:22:34.269 align:start position:0% 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position:0% developers are the ones building the change<00:26:52.649> I<00:26:53.549> guess<00:26:54.059> the<00:26:54.330> question<00:26:54.509> is<00:26:54.899> what's 00:26:55.340 --> 00:26:55.350 align:start position:0% change I guess the question is what's 00:26:55.350 --> 00:26:57.769 align:start position:0% change I guess the question is what's the<00:26:55.679> tolerance<00:26:56.249> er<00:26:56.370> of<00:26:56.490> elasticity<00:26:56.999> of<00:26:57.299> debate 00:26:57.769 --> 00:26:57.779 align:start position:0% the tolerance er of elasticity of debate 00:26:57.779 --> 00:27:00.680 align:start position:0% the tolerance er of elasticity of debate within<00:26:58.080> a<00:26:58.230> particular<00:26:58.379> community<00:26:59.509> if<00:27:00.509> the 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:00.690 align:start position:0% within a particular community if the 00:27:00.690 --> 00:27:02.509 align:start position:0% within a particular community if the developers<00:27:01.139> 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align:start position:0% their system so for all each of these 00:32:13.780 --> 00:32:15.300 align:start position:0% their system so for all each of these faking<00:32:14.230> sets<00:32:14.500> they<00:32:14.800> would<00:32:14.980> have<00:32:15.070> their<00:32:15.220> own 00:32:15.300 --> 00:32:15.310 align:start position:0% faking sets they would have their own 00:32:15.310 --> 00:32:16.980 align:start position:0% faking sets they would have their own statement<00:32:15.700> of<00:32:15.820> it<00:32:16.000> as<00:32:16.120> well<00:32:16.330> but<00:32:16.570> it's<00:32:16.900> not 00:32:16.980 --> 00:32:16.990 align:start position:0% statement of it as well but it's not 00:32:16.990 --> 00:32:19.560 align:start position:0% statement of it as well but it's not clear<00:32:17.260> to<00:32:17.290> me<00:32:17.410> what<00:32:17.650> the<00:32:18.060> market<00:32:19.060> count<00:32:19.240> ratio 00:32:19.560 --> 00:32:19.570 align:start position:0% clear to me what the market 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of this is that C cache believes 00:32:50.230 --> 00:32:51.840 align:start position:0% example of this is that C cache believes that<00:32:50.440> under<00:32:50.770> forcing<00:32:51.190> everything<00:32:51.430> to<00:32:51.730> be 00:32:51.840 --> 00:32:51.850 align:start position:0% that under forcing everything to be 00:32:51.850 --> 00:32:55.530 align:start position:0% that under forcing everything to be private<00:32:52.060> whereas<00:32:52.900> like<00:32:53.880> we're<00:32:54.880> more<00:32:55.210> of<00:32:55.360> a<00:32:55.510> a 00:32:55.530 --> 00:32:55.540 align:start position:0% private whereas like we're more of a a 00:32:55.540 --> 00:32:57.270 align:start position:0% private whereas like we're more of a a world<00:32:56.050> at<00:32:56.200> hey<00:32:56.350> we're<00:32:56.560> illegal<00:32:56.950> block<00:32:57.100> just 00:32:57.270 --> 00:32:57.280 align:start position:0% world at hey we're illegal block just 00:32:57.280 --> 00:33:01.260 align:start position:0% world at hey we're illegal block just like<00:32:57.400> you<00:32:57.610> do<00:32:57.730> what<00:32:57.850> you<00:32:57.970> want<00:33:00.150> well<00:33:01.150> the 00:33:01.260 --> 00:33:01.270 align:start position:0% like you do what you want well the 00:33:01.270 --> 00:33:03.450 align:start position:0% like you do what you want well the gadgets<00:33:01.990> of<00:33:02.080> Attraction<00:33:02.620> ality<00:33:02.950> right<00:33:03.160> so<00:33:03.340> you 00:33:03.450 --> 00:33:03.460 align:start position:0% gadgets of Attraction ality right so you 00:33:03.460 --> 00:33:04.410 align:start position:0% gadgets of Attraction ality right so you should<00:33:03.550> have<00:33:03.640> the<00:33:03.730> option<00:33:03.880> to<00:33:04.090> be<00:33:04.210> able<00:33:04.300> to 00:33:04.410 --> 00:33:04.420 align:start position:0% should have the option to be able to 00:33:04.420 --> 00:33:07.530 align:start position:0% should have the option to be able to 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--> 00:33:34.740 align:start position:0% I am I was just kept presenting visiting 00:33:34.740 --> 00:33:36.500 align:start position:0% I am I was just kept presenting visiting like<00:33:35.040> Korea<00:33:35.460> for<00:33:35.670> a<00:33:35.760> week<00:33:35.910> and<00:33:36.090> I<00:33:36.150> got<00:33:36.330> at<00:33:36.450> least 00:33:36.500 --> 00:33:36.510 align:start position:0% like Korea for a week and I got at least 00:33:36.510 --> 00:33:38.780 align:start position:0% like Korea for a week and I got at least five<00:33:36.900> media<00:33:37.320> people<00:33:37.530> asking<00:33:38.010> me<00:33:38.040> questions<00:33:38.130> of 00:33:38.780 --> 00:33:38.790 align:start position:0% five media people asking me questions of 00:33:38.790 --> 00:33:41.090 align:start position:0% five media people asking me questions of the<00:33:38.910> forum<00:33:39.210> like<00:33:39.390> don't<00:33:40.050> you<00:33:40.230> think<00:33:40.260> privacy 00:33:41.090 --> 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align:start position:0% this kind of no dialogue to happen but how<00:41:09.529> do<00:41:09.589> we<00:41:09.699> scale<00:41:10.699> it<00:41:10.759> so<00:41:11.179> that<00:41:11.329> we<00:41:11.419> don't 00:41:11.529 --> 00:41:11.539 align:start position:0% how do we scale it so that we don't 00:41:11.539 --> 00:41:13.749 align:start position:0% how do we scale it so that we don't necessarily<00:41:11.749> have<00:41:12.229> to<00:41:12.349> travel<00:41:12.619> if<00:41:13.489> we<00:41:13.609> can 00:41:13.749 --> 00:41:13.759 align:start position:0% necessarily have to travel if we can 00:41:13.759 --> 00:41:16.799 align:start position:0% necessarily have to travel if we can crack<00:41:13.939> that<00:41:14.239> I<00:41:14.689> feel<00:41:14.959> like<00:41:15.109> we<00:41:15.439> would<00:41:15.589> have<00:41:15.669> a 00:41:16.799 --> 00:41:16.809 align:start position:0% crack that I feel like we would have a 00:41:16.809 --> 00:41:20.289 align:start position:0% crack 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