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sorry do we have any non designers in
 

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sorry do we have any non designers in
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the room anyone that doesn't have design
 

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the room anyone that doesn't have design
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ahead time so essentially as saying in
 

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ahead time so essentially as saying in
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systems this talk got really weird I
 

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systems this talk got really weird I
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wanted to make them more practical these
 

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wanted to make them more practical these
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topics and the subject matter isn't
 

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topics and the subject matter isn't
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really it's hard to communicate so those
 

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really it's hard to communicate so those
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it's gonna see when we go that's my
 

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it's gonna see when we go that's my
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clarify something as well when I say
 

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clarify something as well when I say
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native etherion design language I'm not
 

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native etherion design language I'm not
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talking about a design system which is
 

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talking about a design system which is
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the system ization of interface
 

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the system ization of interface
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components I'm talking about a
 

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components I'm talking about a
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generative language in the same way that
 

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generative language in the same way that
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we have English for something like that
 

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we have English for something like that
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how can we create composable generative
 

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how can we create composable generative
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elements that actually create a design a
 

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elements that actually create a design a
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process of design but they can be
 

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process of design but they can be
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adapted to a to a complex system sounds
 

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adapted to a to a complex system sounds
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totally normal
 

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totally normal
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cool so the situation so basically we
 

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cool so the situation so basically we
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invented the internet mid 90s in submit
 

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invented the internet mid 90s in submit
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Macmillan century and really shaped it
 

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Macmillan century and really shaped it
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to our world so it's a product about
 

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to our world so it's a product about
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were like to that point and then sort of
 

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were like to that point and then sort of
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with the invention of the World Wide Web
 

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with the invention of the World Wide Web
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1992 berners-lee we arrived at some of
 

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1992 berners-lee we arrived at some of
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the consumer friendly Internet I mean
 

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the consumer friendly Internet I mean
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incentivized us to feed in our
 

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incentivized us to feed in our
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information I mean in transform from
 

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information I mean in transform from
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being a space so a destination that you
 

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being a space so a destination that you
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actually visit to being fused with the
 

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actually visit to being fused with the
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very sort of information systems about
 

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very sort of information systems about
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civilization and then obviously
 

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civilization and then obviously
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everything that happened after 2016 was
 

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everything that happened after 2016 was
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a catalyst for us thinking and trying to
 

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a catalyst for us thinking and trying to
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question what's happening with these
 

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question what's happening with these
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systems what is happening with the
 

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systems what is happening with the
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internet how is it how is it reshaping
 

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internet how is it how is it reshaping
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society how is it reshaping a
 

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society how is it reshaping a
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civilization and so my question is my
 

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civilization and so my question is my
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fourth one of these bullets has been
 

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fourth one of these bullets has been
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essentially aetherium and the related
 

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essentially aetherium and the related
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technologies and not so much of an
 

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technologies and not so much of an
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invention of atomic and friends an
 

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invention of atomic and friends an
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inevitable emergent expression of the
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Internet itself with vitally etc as a
 

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Internet itself with vitally etc as a
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medium for which this was expressed
 

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medium for which this was expressed
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another way to think about this is that
 

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another way to think about this is that
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for the longest time we've had a sort of
 

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for the longest time we've had a sort of
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a simulated reality in the computer and
 

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a simulated reality in the computer and
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which lived but quoting Paul Edwards is
 

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which lived but quoting Paul Edwards is
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an academic that studies and lectures in
 

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an academic that studies and lectures in
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society and technology studies he says
 

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society and technology studies he says
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programming can produce strong
 

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programming can produce strong
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sensations of power and control because
 

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sensations of power and control because
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the computer produces an internally
 

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the computer produces an internally
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if externally incomplete microworld a
 

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simulated world entirely within the meat
 

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simulated world entirely within the meat
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machine itself so that is where most
 

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machine itself so that is where most
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tools produce effects on a wider level
 

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tools produce effects on a wider level
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in which they are only upon the computer
 

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in which they are only upon the computer
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contains its own worlds in miniature in
 

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contains its own worlds in miniature in
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the micro world as in children's
 

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the micro world as in children's
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make-believe the power of the program is
 

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make-believe the power of the program is
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absolute and the problem is that now as
 

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absolute and the problem is that now as
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the Internet has started to interface
 

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the Internet has started to interface
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with these systems of society the
 

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with these systems of society the
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simulated reality of the computer is
 

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simulated reality of the computer is
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brittle and it can't handle it is not
 

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brittle and it can't handle it is not
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capable of adapting and responding to
 

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capable of adapting and responding to
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the pressures and the challenges that
 

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the pressures and the challenges that
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it's now facing and the best way to
 

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it's now facing and the best way to
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phrase this I think is in this essay a
 

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phrase this I think is in this essay a
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childhood and they came out on January
 

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childhood and they came out on January
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1st this year by George Dyson basically
 

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1st this year by George Dyson basically
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says that the genius sometimes
 

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says that the genius sometimes
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deliberate sometimes exit out of the
 

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deliberate sometimes exit out of the
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enterprises now on such a steep ascent
 

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enterprises now on such a steep ascent
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is that they have found their way
 

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is that they have found their way
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through the looking-glass and emerged as
 

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through the looking-glass and emerged as
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something else the models are no longer
 

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something else the models are no longer
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models the search engine is no longer a
 

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models the search engine is no longer a
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model of human knowledge
 

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it is human knowledge what began as a
 

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it is human knowledge what began as a
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mapping of human meaning now defines
 

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mapping of human meaning now defines
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human meaning and has begun to control
 

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human meaning and has begun to control
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rather than simply catalog or index
 

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rather than simply catalog or index
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human thought no one is at the controls
 

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human thought no one is at the controls
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so this is basically my vibe we live in
 

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so this is basically my vibe we live in
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an age of planetary computing we've
 

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an age of planetary computing we've
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reached the limits of design and that
 

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reached the limits of design and that
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might help us extend them or another way
 

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might help us extend them or another way
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of explaining it how do we get to galaxy
 

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of explaining it how do we get to galaxy
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brain design all right so just an
 

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brain design all right so just an
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intermission it was this guy you
 

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intermission it was this guy you
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probably think I'm kind of weird some of
 

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probably think I'm kind of weird some of
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these topics are real strange this is me
 

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these topics are real strange this is me
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this is a friendlier version of me I'm a
 

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this is a friendlier version of me I'm a
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product designer consensus I work on the
 

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product designer consensus I work on the
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Robo component library about two years
 

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I've been researching this topic trying
 

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I've been researching this topic trying
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to understand what has been happening
 

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to understand what has been happening
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since so to 2016 or what are they
 

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since so to 2016 or what are they
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happening since then and also before
 

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happening since then and also before
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that was proceeding this whole this
 

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that was proceeding this whole this
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whole event cool so basically yeah
 

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whole event cool so basically yeah
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what's going on and nobody knows is what
 

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what's going on and nobody knows is what
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I've discovered not even the people in
 

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I've discovered not even the people in
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charge this is Casey Newton on Twitter
 

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charge this is Casey Newton on Twitter
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he interviewed a YouTube co-ed Pokemon
 

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he interviewed a YouTube co-ed Pokemon
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and she said we work really hard to
 

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and she said we work really hard to
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understand what's happening on it on
 

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understand what's happening on it on
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youtube so the people that run these
 

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youtube so the people that run these
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platforms don't even know what's going
 

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platforms don't even know what's going
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on people and well actually this is
 

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on people and well actually this is
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everywhere so you should all be familiar
 

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everywhere so you should all be familiar
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with this Facebook being used to
 

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with this Facebook being used to
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distribute state propaganda Facebook
 

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distribute state propaganda Facebook
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again being used with site violence and
 

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again being used with site violence and
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genocide and yanma this one's a bit more
 

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genocide and yanma this one's a bit more
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positive actually I thought this is fun
 

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positive actually I thought this is fun
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so basically teens have big bodies in LA
 

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so basically teens have big bodies in LA
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they credit in store account all the
 

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they credit in store account all the
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body and people have to request to
 

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body and people have to request to
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follow it if you get in if you get
 

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follow it if you get in if you get
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approved it basically means it's your
 

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approved it basically means it's your
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invite they did not design them this is
 

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invite they did not design them this is
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this is this is an interesting one so a
 

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this is this is an interesting one so a
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DMV says we want to belong anyway I'm
 

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DMV says we want to belong anyway I'm
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sure you're all staying in MDM DS this
 

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sure you're all staying in MDM DS this
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anyway so that bus alone and locals say
 

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anyway so that bus alone and locals say
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that basically see the service is a
 

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that basically see the service is a
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pestilence which is very spot and
 

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pestilence which is very spot and
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aspirational image they're trying to
 

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aspirational image they're trying to
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forget my project effectively saying
 

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forget my project effectively saying
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that Envy is one of the Four Horsemen of
 

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that Envy is one of the Four Horsemen of
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you know Katie this is her LinkedIn
 

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you know Katie this is her LinkedIn
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profile and I think so
 

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profile and I think so
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anything out of the ordinary again
 

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anything out of the ordinary again
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anyone know what's up with Katie yes
 

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anyone know what's up with Katie yes
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partial credit she is a product of
 

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partial credit she is a product of
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machine learning but what you were not
 

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machine learning but what you were not
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gonna get is that she was also designed
 

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gonna get is that she was also designed
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by a spy Russian spy and wanted to
 

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by a spy Russian spy and wanted to
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recruit informants in Washington for
 

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recruit informants in Washington for
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LinkedIn and this is also done by the
 

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Chinese allegedly as well this is a fun
 

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Chinese allegedly as well this is a fun
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one so hooba grannies in running shoes
 

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at delivering ramen food we're right
 

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at delivering ramen food we're right
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here in Japan and and then how you
 

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here in Japan and and then how you
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choose radicalized Brazil so these are
 

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choose radicalized Brazil so these are
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to Brazil in order to understand what's
 

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to Brazil in order to understand what's
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happening down there and they observe
 

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happening down there and they observe
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but they believe they've got the
 

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but they believe they've got the
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evidence they publish this evidence
 

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evidence they publish this evidence
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observing that YouTube's recommendation
 

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observing that YouTube's recommendation
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engine led to the rise in popularity of
 

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engine led to the rise in popularity of
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visible Senado
 

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visible Senado
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and led to his election subsequently so
 

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and led to his election subsequently so
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oh yeah this is really something so in
 

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oh yeah this is really something so in
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this article there's as opposed to by
 

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this article there's as opposed to by
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the name of Edward Theodore chief and he
 

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the name of Edward Theodore chief and he
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says we have something here that we call
 

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says we have something here that we call
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the dictatorship of the like reality is
 

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the dictatorship of the like reality is
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saying is shaped by whatever message
 

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saying is shaped by whatever message
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goes most viral so we're probably
 

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goes most viral so we're probably
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thinking what the hell is going on
 

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thinking what the hell is going on
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because no one explicitly designed
 

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because no one explicitly designed
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Facebook to incite violence or YouTube
 

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Facebook to incite violence or YouTube
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to radicalize Brazilians or Airbnb to
 

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to radicalize Brazilians or Airbnb to
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reshape affordability in cities all
 

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reshape affordability in cities all
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around the world all the Linkedin to be
 

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around the world all the Linkedin to be
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used by recruit informants for foreign
 

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used by recruit informants for foreign
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intelligence authorities and I think I
 

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intelligence authorities and I think I
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figured this out I think it's the root
 

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figured this out I think it's the root
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cause is the Silicon Valley formulas
 

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cause is the Silicon Valley formulas
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pretty simple I'm sure you will know it
 

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pretty simple I'm sure you will know it
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I basically take one young self-assured
 

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I basically take one young self-assured
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male white man give him a bunch of cash
 

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male white man give him a bunch of cash
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and they change the world and they
 

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and they change the world and they
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impose themselves on the planet to make
 

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impose themselves on the planet to make
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us better right the issue with this is
 

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us better right the issue with this is
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that is essentially scale
 

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that is essentially scale
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it's Silicon Valley's obsession and it's
 

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it's Silicon Valley's obsession and it's
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tied to the VC model and the actual
 

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tied to the VC model and the actual
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the pallid lower returns around how the
 

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the pallid lower returns around how the
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these BC business ones make their money
 

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these BC business ones make their money
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and if she was scaled inherently is that
 

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and if she was scaled inherently is that
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at least to complexity now complex
 

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at least to complexity now complex
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systems complex systems are those where
 

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systems complex systems are those where
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a system is more than the sum of its
 

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parts and effectively the issue here is
 

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parts and effectively the issue here is
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that we can actually predict their
 

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that we can actually predict their
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behavior so a complex system is one we
 

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behavior so a complex system is one we
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count we do we simply cannot map or
 

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count we do we simply cannot map or
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model all the different interactions all
 

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model all the different interactions all
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different elements of that system and
 

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different elements of that system and
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therefore they producing the emergent
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effects that I showed you which is
 

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effects that I showed you which is
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exactly the problem
 

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exactly the problem
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emergence is a classical element or
 

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classical property or output of any
 

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classical property or output of any
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complex system that basically says it's
 

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complex system that basically says it's
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stuff that you cannot possibly have
 

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stuff that you cannot possibly have
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imagined with sort of manifesting from
 

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imagined with sort of manifesting from
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these things oh yeah so essentially one
 

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these things oh yeah so essentially one
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other way to reframe this is the in
 

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other way to reframe this is the in
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Malcolm's famous Withers so in a simple
 

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system your old design is accepted like
 

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system your old design is accepted like
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five of you this is simple cause and
 

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five of you this is simple cause and
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effect right you have a like button and
 

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effect right you have a like button and
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then you it's tied to a counter and it
 

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then you it's tied to a counter and it
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goes up and you feel good about yourself
 

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goes up and you feel good about yourself
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the complex system what happens is that
 

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the complex system what happens is that
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cause might still be tied to effect but
 

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cause might still be tied to effect but
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then that effect might be tied to other
 

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then that effect might be tied to other
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effects as well see if the second and
 

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effects as well see if the second and
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third and fourth order effects that lead
 

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to these some of the examples that I
 

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to these some of the examples that I
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showed you earlier in the talk and so
 

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showed you earlier in the talk and so
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yeah the fundamental problem we have
 

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yeah the fundamental problem we have
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here is that we can't fully know all the
 

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here is that we can't fully know all the
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unintended effects about design choices
 

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unintended effects about design choices
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in a complex system a single cause might
 

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have any kind of effect for an example
 

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have any kind of effect for an example
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if this is tied to a counter in a simple
 

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if this is tied to a counter in a simple
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system I mean it's not a very it's
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simple it cannot be manipulated to any
 

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simple it cannot be manipulated to any
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great degree that new feed if the like
 

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great degree that new feed if the like
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button is tied to a recommendation
 

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button is tied to a recommendation
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engine that is built by a company that
 

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has designed a business model to
 

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incentivize time on site in order to
 

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sell ad inventory all of those design
 

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sell ad inventory all of those design
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showed you before radicalization of
 

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showed you before radicalization of
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distributing propaganda and so on and so
 

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distributing propaganda and so on and so
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forth so that are used by actors outside
 

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forth so that are used by actors outside
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the system in politics and culture etc
 

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the system in politics and culture etc
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in ways that were never intended so it
 

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in ways that were never intended so it
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is it or read this book and no it's
 

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is it or read this book and no it's
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really good okay so yes I'm James Brown
 

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really good okay so yes I'm James Brown
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oh he's written a bunch of essays around
 

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oh he's written a bunch of essays around
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sort of this concept of the new Dark Age
 

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sort of this concept of the new Dark Age
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and then he published this book that
 

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and then he published this book that
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came out of the start of this year maybe
 

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came out of the start of this year maybe
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the blast but he essentially says what
 

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the blast but he essentially says what
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is needed is not new technology but new
 

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is needed is not new technology but new
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metaphors a metal language for
 

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metaphors a metal language for
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describing the world and complex systems
 

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describing the world and complex systems
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of reward a new shorthand is required
 

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of reward a new shorthand is required
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one that simultaneously acknowledges and
 

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one that simultaneously acknowledges and
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addresses the reality of the world in
 

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addresses the reality of the world in
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which people politics culture and
 

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which people politics culture and
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technology are utterly enmeshed so what
 

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technology are utterly enmeshed so what
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I'm proposing if you will is that we
 

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I'm proposing if you will is that we
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need some kind of third layer the 90s in
 

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need some kind of third layer the 90s in
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the early 2000s what was around in those
 

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the early 2000s what was around in those
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days was basically all there was was UI
 

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days was basically all there was was UI
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need UI design and that was your
 

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need UI design and that was your
thinking

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thinking
 

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thinking
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and then obviously dawn Norman invented
 

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and then obviously dawn Norman invented
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UX in this applied in sort of a
 

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UX in this applied in sort of a
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computing context in the mid 90s but he
 

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computing context in the mid 90s but he
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didn't find its way into web design as a
 

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didn't find its way into web design as a
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practice until sort of what 2005 six
 

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practice until sort of what 2005 six
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seven eight so on and basically UX
 

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seven eight so on and basically UX
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subsumed UI as a cohesive collective
 

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subsumed UI as a cohesive collective
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practice and my thought is that a third
 

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practice and my thought is that a third
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layer is going to subsea wax as well and
 

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layer is going to subsea wax as well and
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it's gonna be for the design of complex
 

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it's gonna be for the design of complex
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systems were adapting complex systems so
 

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systems were adapting complex systems so
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the question is why can we find a new
 

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the question is why can we find a new
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design language and what have really
 

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design language and what have really
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established that it's not a process of
 

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established that it's not a process of
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creation but revelation we don't need to
 

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creation but revelation we don't need to
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invent anything new everything that we
 

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invent anything new everything that we
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need is wordy has already been explored
 

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need is wordy has already been explored
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has been published of his being talked
 

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has been published of his being talked
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about and exists in many different
 

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about and exists in many different
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disciplines right now today one example
 

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disciplines right now today one example
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of how we can find this process of
 

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of how we can find this process of
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Revelation facilitated this is John Boyd
 

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Revelation facilitated this is John Boyd
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Air Force pilot this is a happier John
 

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Air Force pilot this is a happier John
Waite

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Waite
 

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Waite
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he did what
 

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he did what
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it was called the aerial attack State so
 

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it was called the aerial attack State so
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in the in the mid 20th century it was
 

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in the in the mid 20th century it was
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around the 60s it was believed that
 

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around the 60s it was believed that
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dogfighting Aero dogfighting was far too
 

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dogfighting Aero dogfighting was far too
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complex to ever be objectively not been
 

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complex to ever be objectively not been
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defined and that no objective tactics
 

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defined and that no objective tactics
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manual would ever be creative
 

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manual would ever be creative
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he just applied physics to that problem
 

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he just applied physics to that problem
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wasn't that hot and be basically
 

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wasn't that hot and be basically
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determined that in any aerial dogfight
 

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determined that in any aerial dogfight
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the position and velocity of your enemy
 

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the position and velocity of your enemy
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compared to yourself is all you need to
 

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compared to yourself is all you need to
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know in order to understand what what
 

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know in order to understand what what
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the movies they have available and what
 

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the movies they have available and what
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you can do the Canon of similarly so
 

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you can do the Canon of similarly so
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this is the Yoshizawa angle system up
 

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this is the Yoshizawa angle system up
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until before they they have system
 

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until before they they have system
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wasn't developed sorry communicating how
 

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wasn't developed sorry communicating how
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to make origami was a very complicated
 

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to make origami was a very complicated
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process that we just didn't have a
 

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process that we just didn't have a
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system in place that could cohesively or
 

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system in place that could cohesively or
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clearly communicate on how to make these
 

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clearly communicate on how to make these
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phones and so essentially all they did
 

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phones and so essentially all they did
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was create a superior symbolic language
 

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was create a superior symbolic language
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to better communicate how to go through
 

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to better communicate how to go through
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this process they didn't do anything new
 

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this process they didn't do anything new
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they didn't invent anything new that
 

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they didn't invent anything new that
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just took what was there and they
 

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just took what was there and they
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updated it and incorporated different
 

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updated it and incorporated different
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symbolic similar diagrams from other
 

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symbolic similar diagrams from other
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professions what other disciplines are
 

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professions what other disciplines are
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so how do you design for complexity I've
 

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so how do you design for complexity I've
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got no idea and that's kind of the point
 

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got no idea and that's kind of the point
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um but I do think we need to go deeper
 

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um but I do think we need to go deeper
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deep it down the stack so to speak and
 

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deep it down the stack so to speak and
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the first thing to consider is that the
 

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the first thing to consider is that the
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system should be on primitive so a
 

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system should be on primitive so a
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system is scale free and we're in an age
 

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system is scale free and we're in an age
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now where scale has evolved these
 

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now where scale has evolved these
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systems or basically incentivizes these
 

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systems or basically incentivizes these
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systems to grow at a planetary scale a
 

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systems to grow at a planetary scale a
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system is scale free it means that it
 

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system is scale free it means that it
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can be as small as a single cell or as
 

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can be as small as a single cell or as
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large as the universe and systems
 

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large as the universe and systems
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everywhere you were all familiar with
 

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everywhere you were all familiar with
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them you each have a system for how you
 

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them you each have a system for how you
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navigate a city or improve your memory
 

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navigate a city or improve your memory
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or how you
 

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or how you
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value-add a a morning routine have you
 

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value-add a a morning routine have you
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considered a system and we are very
 

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considered a system and we are very
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familiar with these with this as a
 

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familiar with these with this as a
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concept as a construct and you're
 

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concept as a construct and you're
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already designing its systems anyway is
 

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already designing its systems anyway is
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it the transition here is can we think
 

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it the transition here is can we think
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of less amount out putting objects and
 

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of less amount out putting objects and
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outputting relationships knowing that
 

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outputting relationships knowing that
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they gonna shape whatever it is that we
 

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they gonna shape whatever it is that we
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want to approach so effectively saying
 

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want to approach so effectively saying
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that objects as a natural output are a
 

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that objects as a natural output are a
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natural output for any set of
 

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natural output for any set of
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relationships and interactions that they
 

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relationships and interactions that they
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facilitate moving away from the public
 

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facilitate moving away from the public
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solution as a binary and things because
 

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solution as a binary and things because
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if someone presents solution can be
 

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if someone presents solution can be
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another person's problem and
 

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another person's problem and
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understanding that there are no in a
 

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understanding that there are no in a
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simple system maybe there is a
 

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simple system maybe there is a
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meaningful way for a problem solution
 

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meaningful way for a problem solution
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solution binary to actually work but in
 

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solution binary to actually work but in
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these complex systems not so much and
 

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these complex systems not so much and
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also actually the solution implies that
 

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also actually the solution implies that
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a problem can be solved but any solution
 

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a problem can be solved but any solution
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is actually only temporary this is
 

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is actually only temporary this is
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important as well we design
 

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important as well we design
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independently we designed as if we're
 

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independently we designed as if we're
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designing a single system but we need to
 

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designing a single system but we need to
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design for interdependence we need to
 

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design for interdependence we need to
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understand how the systems outside of us
 

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understand how the systems outside of us
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look unconsciously shaping our design
 

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look unconsciously shaping our design
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practices and add a bias fees and so on
 

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practices and add a bias fees and so on
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and so forth I think we're really great
 

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and so forth I think we're really great
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this is Benjamin Bratt and design
 

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this is Benjamin Bratt and design
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theorist I think a really great point of
 

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theorist I think a really great point of
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view on this a lot tickle a ssin of this
 

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view on this a lot tickle a ssin of this
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was at a talk he gave last year where he
 

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was at a talk he gave last year where he
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said that he suspected we proposed that
 

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said that he suspected we proposed that
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the insurance industry has contributed
 

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the insurance industry has contributed
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more to car design than the automotive
 

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more to car design than the automotive
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industry itself and this is another
 

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industry itself and this is another
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really interesting diagram I found one
 

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really interesting diagram I found one
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so basically how that these in the in
 

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so basically how that these in the in
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the case of this worker imagine you
 

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the case of this worker imagine you
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imagine deal
 

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imagine deal
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okay how do all of these intellect or
 

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okay how do all of these intellect or
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systems influence how you design how you
 

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systems influence how you design how you
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practice how you think and this is where
 

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practice how you think and this is where
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it gets interesting so moving away from
 

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it gets interesting so moving away from
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designing interactions to designing
 

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designing interactions to designing
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incentives in order to encourage those
 

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incentives in order to encourage those
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interactions how can we design modes of
 

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interactions how can we design modes of
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value and an opinion believe social
 

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value and an opinion believe social
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reputational status systems how can we
 

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reputational status systems how can we
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design those towards achieving our names
 

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design those towards achieving our names
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I'm happy to move from thinking in non
 

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I'm happy to move from thinking in non
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social terms to social terms something
 

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social terms to social terms something
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that the theory of them does very well
 

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that the theory of them does very well
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is acknowledged able to social
 

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is acknowledged able to social
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relationships and design for them in
 

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relationships and design for them in
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this consensus mechanism and how do we
 

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this consensus mechanism and how do we
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go from designing the direct control
 

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go from designing the direct control
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trying to get clear cause and effect
 

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trying to get clear cause and effect
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what is I have to clear cause and effect
 

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what is I have to clear cause and effect
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to indirect control where it's not
 

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to indirect control where it's not
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understanding that it's not possible for
 

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understanding that it's not possible for
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us to have every single answer to every
 

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us to have every single answer to every
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single design social problem but we need
 

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single design social problem but we need
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to be able to figure out ways to shape
 

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to be able to figure out ways to shape
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influence these things even well after
 

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influence these things even well after
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we've actually stepped aside and how do
 

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we've actually stepped aside and how do
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we acknowledge that we now need to
 

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we acknowledge that we now need to
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design from static systems to adaptive
 

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design from static systems to adaptive
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systems
 

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systems
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and obviously once again aetherium is
 

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and obviously once again aetherium is
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very good for this with this
 

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very good for this with this
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composability and its capacity to be
 

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composability and its capacity to be
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formed one of the biggest challenges
 

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formed one of the biggest challenges
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that digital static systems have is
 

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that digital static systems have is
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sorry is in their inability to adapt so
 

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sorry is in their inability to adapt so
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this gives us a model of how we can get
 

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this gives us a model of how we can get
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around that yeah so also essentially we
 

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around that yeah so also essentially we
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need to sort of I proposed
 

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need to sort of I proposed
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I suggested this though we should
 

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I suggested this though we should
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consider consider ourselves effectively
 

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consider consider ourselves effectively
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on a cycle of creation and adaptation
 

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on a cycle of creation and adaptation
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and both the user and ourselves are both
 

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and both the user and ourselves are both
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going through this cycle as well so just
 

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going through this cycle as well so just
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as the user creates and we adapt we
 

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as the user creates and we adapt we
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create they adapt and think about less
 

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create they adapt and think about less
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from a hierarchical perspective and the
 

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from a hierarchical perspective and the
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set of interrelationships yeah so I
 

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set of interrelationships yeah so I
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don't know how to actually finish this
 

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don't know how to actually finish this
out

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out
 

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out
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because this topic is still one that I'm
 

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because this topic is still one that I'm
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struggling to I might be able to
 

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struggling to I might be able to
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communicate cohesively Oh clearly but
 

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communicate cohesively Oh clearly but
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this is from LaRoche whilst she says a
 

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this is from LaRoche whilst she says a
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flower is not a flower it is made only
 

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flower is not a flower it is made only
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of non-flower elements sunshine clouds
 

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of non-flower elements sunshine clouds
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time space of minerals godness and so on
 

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time space of minerals godness and so on
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a true flower contains the whole
 

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a true flower contains the whole
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universe and if we were turn any one of
 

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universe and if we were turn any one of
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those non-flower elements to its source
 

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those non-flower elements to its source
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there will be no flower so just thinking
 

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there will be no flower so just thinking
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about systems are in and through
 

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about systems are in and through
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everything that we're doing
 

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everything that we're doing
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