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as na and you say things 00:36:44.820 --> 00:36:47.000 align:start position:0% answer as near as na and you say things believes<00:36:45.150> it's<00:36:45.330> full<00:36:45.540> request<00:36:45.869> and<00:36:46.230> maybe 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:47.010 align:start position:0% believes it's full request and maybe 00:36:47.010 --> 00:36:48.650 align:start position:0% believes it's full request and maybe wait<00:36:47.250> six<00:36:47.520> months<00:36:47.580> for<00:36:47.820> people<00:36:48.060> like<00:36:48.270> you<00:36:48.480> over 00:36:48.650 --> 00:36:48.660 align:start position:0% wait six months for people like you over 00:36:48.660 --> 00:36:51.470 align:start position:0% wait six months for people like you over there's<00:36:49.470> the<00:36:49.560> right<00:36:50.040> to<00:36:50.280> like<00:36:50.460> an<00:36:50.640> assassin<00:36:51.270> so 00:36:51.470 --> 00:36:51.480 align:start position:0% there's the right to like an assassin so 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.599 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systematic so please it's based on how much<00:44:03.940> time<00:44:04.480> and<00:44:04.599> a<00:44:04.660> teacher<00:44:04.900> they<00:44:05.140> do<00:44:05.290> this<00:44:05.440> I 00:44:05.579 --> 00:44:05.589 align:start position:0% much time and a teacher they do this I 00:44:05.589 --> 00:44:09.270 align:start position:0% much time and a teacher they do this I had<00:44:05.770> available<00:44:06.369> to<00:44:06.550> spend<00:44:06.730> on<00:44:07.440> and<00:44:08.440> on<00:44:08.650> ways<00:44:08.920> to 00:44:09.270 --> 00:44:09.280 align:start position:0% had available to spend on and on ways to 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.830 align:start position:0% had available to spend on and on ways to make<00:44:09.430> it 00:44:12.830 --> 00:44:12.840 align:start position:0% 00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.620 align:start position:0% procedural<00:44:13.800> terms<00:44:14.220> of<00:44:14.520> making<00:44:15.090> sure<00:44:15.300> the 00:44:15.620 --> 00:44:15.630 align:start 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certification thinking or and also 01:32:11.900 --> 01:32:13.750 align:start position:0% certification thinking or and also generally<01:32:12.290> what<01:32:12.410> other<01:32:12.620> questions<01:32:13.130> might<01:32:13.640> you 01:32:13.750 --> 01:32:13.760 align:start position:0% generally what other questions might you 01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:16.630 align:start position:0% generally what other questions might you have<01:32:13.790> about<01:32:14.390> how<01:32:14.810> the<01:32:15.770> organizations<01:32:16.430> we've 01:32:16.630 --> 01:32:16.640 align:start position:0% have about how the organizations we've 01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:24.080 align:start position:0% have about how the organizations we've talked<01:32:16.940> about<01:32:17.180> today<01:32:17.480> the<01:32:18.020> process 01:32:24.080 --> 01:32:24.090 align:start position:0% 01:32:24.090 --> 01:32:28.080 align:start position:0% how'd<01:32:25.090> it<01:32:25.119> easier<01:32:25.570> for<01:32:25.599> 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change we have you know so again 01:38:21.679 --> 01:38:23.620 align:start position:0% the change we have you know so again just<01:38:21.710> verifies<01:38:22.369> this<01:38:22.670> thing<01:38:22.940> prices<01:38:23.449> for 01:38:23.620 --> 01:38:23.630 align:start position:0% just verifies this thing prices for 01:38:23.630 --> 01:38:25.569 align:start position:0% just verifies this thing prices for writing<01:38:23.900> the<01:38:23.989> IPS<01:38:24.349> versus<01:38:24.829> purses<01:38:25.309> for 01:38:25.569 --> 01:38:25.579 align:start position:0% writing the IPS versus purses for 01:38:25.579 --> 01:38:28.959 align:start position:0% writing the IPS versus purses for changing<01:38:26.030> the<01:38:26.150> IP<01:38:26.510> one<01:38:26.829> this<01:38:27.829> is<01:38:27.980> for<01:38:28.340> writing 01:38:28.959 --> 01:38:28.969 align:start position:0% changing the IP one this is for writing 01:38:28.969 --> 01:38:30.760 align:start position:0% changing the IP one this 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position:0% the Miyake 01:38:35.960 --> 01:38:38.229 align:start position:0% the Miyake I<01:38:36.199> should<01:38:36.739> actually<01:38:36.920> read<01:38:37.579> meat<01:38:38.090> the 01:38:38.229 --> 01:38:38.239 align:start position:0% I should actually read meat the 01:38:38.239 --> 01:38:42.399 align:start position:0% I should actually read meat the earpieces<01:38:38.869> so<01:38:39.670> if<01:38:40.670> the<01:38:41.090> IP<01:38:41.300> one<01:38:41.599> says<01:38:41.900> that<01:38:41.929> in 01:38:42.399 --> 01:38:42.409 align:start position:0% earpieces so if the IP one says that in 01:38:42.409 --> 01:38:45.580 align:start position:0% earpieces so if the IP one says that in my<01:38:42.829> opinion<01:38:42.889> it's<01:38:43.699> a<01:38:43.849> greater<01:38:44.210> certainly<01:38:44.690> if 01:38:45.580 --> 01:38:45.590 align:start position:0% my opinion it's a greater certainly if 01:38:45.590 --> 01:38:47.859 align:start position:0% my opinion it's a greater 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