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together I'm 00:23:55.080 --> 00:23:57.590 align:start position:0% way we're gonna do that is together I'm hoping<00:23:55.590> that<00:23:55.770> this<00:23:55.890> was<00:23:56.549> somewhat<00:23:56.970> useful<00:23:57.390> and 00:23:57.590 --> 00:23:57.600 align:start position:0% hoping that this was somewhat useful and 00:23:57.600 --> 00:23:59.390 align:start position:0% hoping that this was somewhat useful and I<00:23:57.780> look<00:23:58.020> forward<00:23:58.230> to<00:23:58.350> talking<00:23:58.590> with<00:23:58.770> you<00:23:59.010> any 00:23:59.390 --> 00:23:59.400 align:start position:0% I look forward to talking with you any 00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:00.040 align:start position:0% I look forward to talking with you any questions 00:24:00.040 --> 00:24:00.050 align:start position:0% questions 00:24:00.050 --> 00:24:12.879 align:start position:0% questions [Applause] 00:24:12.879 --> 00:24:12.889 align:start position:0% 00:24:12.889 --> 00:24:18.519 align:start 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align:start position:0% handshake gave us a hundred thousand I'm nice<00:28:52.970> ago<00:28:53.210> gave<00:28:53.480> us<00:28:53.660> 30<00:28:53.929> thousand<00:28:54.320> we've 00:28:54.610 --> 00:28:54.620 align:start position:0% nice ago gave us 30 thousand we've 00:28:54.620 --> 00:28:56.799 align:start position:0% nice ago gave us 30 thousand we've gotten<00:28:54.980> a<00:28:55.040> lot<00:28:55.190> of<00:28:55.250> support<00:28:55.549> actually<00:28:56.090> so 00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:56.809 align:start position:0% gotten a lot of support actually so 00:28:56.809 --> 00:28:59.789 align:start position:0% gotten a lot of support actually so that's<00:28:57.169> that's<00:28:58.010> my<00:28:58.130> Schilling<00:28:58.669> moment<00:28:59.510> here 00:28:59.789 --> 00:28:59.799 align:start position:0% that's that's my Schilling moment here 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.070 align:start position:0% that's that's my Schilling moment here but<00:29:00.799> there<00:29:01.549> 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position:0% library yeah oh man like how do we 00:34:10.710 --> 00:34:16.369 align:start position:0% library yeah oh man like how do we prevent<00:34:11.040> that<00:34:12.290> I<00:34:14.810> I'm<00:34:15.810> not<00:34:15.960> sure<00:34:16.079> I've<00:34:16.200> talked 00:34:16.369 --> 00:34:16.379 align:start position:0% prevent that I I'm not sure I've talked 00:34:16.379 --> 00:34:18.260 align:start position:0% prevent that I I'm not sure I've talked about<00:34:16.500> this<00:34:16.710> in<00:34:16.889> public<00:34:17.010> why<00:34:17.760> we're<00:34:18.000> blocked 00:34:18.260 --> 00:34:18.270 align:start position:0% about this in public why we're blocked 00:34:18.270 --> 00:34:22.490 align:start position:0% about this in public why we're blocked in<00:34:18.540> China<00:34:18.569> as<00:34:19.079> best<00:34:19.290> I<00:34:19.409> can<00:34:19.470> tell<00:34:19.800> so<00:34:21.500> in 00:34:22.490 --> 00:34:22.500 align:start position:0% in China as best I can tell so in 00:34:22.500 --> 00:34:24.770 align:start position:0% in China as best I can tell so in general<00:34:22.950> company<00:34:23.669> countries<00:34:24.270> will<00:34:24.450> come<00:34:24.629> to 00:34:24.770 --> 00:34:24.780 align:start position:0% general company countries will come to 00:34:24.780 --> 00:34:26.690 align:start position:0% general company countries will come to us<00:34:24.899> and<00:34:25.079> go<00:34:25.169> and<00:34:25.349> say<00:34:25.530> this<00:34:25.950> particular<00:34:26.490> thing 00:34:26.690 --> 00:34:26.700 align:start position:0% us and go and say this particular thing 00:34:26.700 --> 00:34:28.550 align:start position:0% us and go and say this particular thing is<00:34:26.819> not<00:34:27.000> legal<00:34:27.450> in<00:34:27.569> Germany<00:34:28.020> or<00:34:28.109> whatever 00:34:28.550 --> 00:34:28.560 align:start position:0% is not legal in Germany or whatever 00:34:28.560 --> 00:34:30.409 align:start position:0% is not legal in 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there<00:34:54.629> were 00:34:54.740 --> 00:34:54.750 align:start position:0% to be put out there in China there were 00:34:54.750 --> 00:34:56.599 align:start position:0% to be put out there in China there were some<00:34:54.960> uploaded<00:34:55.530> videos<00:34:55.859> to<00:34:56.099> the<00:34:56.220> Internet 00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:56.609 align:start position:0% some uploaded videos to the Internet 00:34:56.609 --> 00:34:58.790 align:start position:0% some uploaded videos to the Internet Archive<00:34:56.790> and<00:34:57.240> they<00:34:57.869> came<00:34:58.109> and<00:34:58.170> said<00:34:58.530> you<00:34:58.619> have 00:34:58.790 --> 00:34:58.800 align:start position:0% Archive and they came and said you have 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:00.110 align:start position:0% Archive and they came and said you have to<00:34:58.980> take<00:34:59.160> them<00:34:59.369> down<00:34:59.579> and<00:34:59.790> we<00:34:59.910> said 00:35:00.110 --> 00:35:00.120 align:start position:0% to take them down and we said 00:35:00.120 --> 00:35:02.000 align:start position:0% to take them down and we said are<00:35:00.240> they<00:35:00.360> illegal<00:35:00.630> in<00:35:00.960> China<00:35:01.260> and<00:35:01.710> they<00:35:01.830> said 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:02.010 align:start position:0% are they illegal in China and they said 00:35:02.010 --> 00:35:03.590 align:start position:0% are they illegal in China and they said yes<00:35:02.250> those<00:35:02.490> are<00:35:02.520> illegal<00:35:03.000> in<00:35:03.120> China<00:35:03.150> we<00:35:03.450> said 00:35:03.590 --> 00:35:03.600 align:start position:0% yes those are illegal in China we said 00:35:03.600 --> 00:35:05.240 align:start position:0% yes those are illegal in China we said fine<00:35:03.960> we'll<00:35:04.170> block<00:35:04.470> them<00:35:04.710> in<00:35:04.830> China<00:35:05.040> and<00:35:05.190> they 00:35:05.240 --> 00:35:05.250 align:start position:0% fine we'll block them in China and they 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newspapers television Facebook Google so that's<00:36:54.510> not<00:36:54.690> good<00:36:54.930> enough 00:36:55.370 --> 00:36:55.380 align:start position:0% that's not good enough 00:36:55.380 --> 00:36:58.400 align:start position:0% that's not good enough I'm<00:36:55.820> I'm<00:36:56.820> I'm<00:36:56.970> Oh<00:36:57.420> generally<00:36:57.870> a<00:36:57.900> free-for-all 00:36:58.400 --> 00:36:58.410 align:start position:0% I'm I'm I'm Oh generally a free-for-all 00:36:58.410 --> 00:37:00.560 align:start position:0% I'm I'm I'm Oh generally a free-for-all kind<00:36:58.830> of<00:36:58.920> guy<00:36:59.070> there's<00:36:59.730> ways<00:36:59.940> of<00:37:00.150> making<00:37:00.480> that 00:37:00.560 --> 00:37:00.570 align:start position:0% kind of guy there's ways of making that 00:37:00.570 --> 00:37:03.590 align:start position:0% kind of guy there's ways of making that work<00:37:00.680> I<00:37:01.680> just<00:37:02.160> like<00:37:02.520> to<00:37:02.640> 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very much we're around for the rest of 00:37:10.140 --> 00:37:10.690 align:start position:0% very much we're around for the rest of the<00:37:10.230> day 00:37:10.690 --> 00:37:10.700 align:start position:0% the day 00:37:10.700 --> 00:37:22.020 align:start position:0% the day you 00:37:22.020 --> 00:37:22.030 align:start position:0% 00:37:22.030 --> 00:37:24.090 align:start position:0% you